From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.auctex.devel Subject: Re: CVS repository synchronization for RefTeX Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:55:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87k60b7hv5.fsf@neutrino.caeruleus.net> <87sley46bb.fsf@neutrino.caeruleus.net> <87mz554e1u.fsf@neutrino.caeruleus.net> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167515880 27001 80.91.229.12 (30 Dec 2006 21:58:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: angeli@caeruleus.net, auctex-devel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Carsten Dominik Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 30 22:57:58 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H0mDC-0005p7-Ia for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:57:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0mDC-0005hA-5k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:57:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H0mCO-0005MY-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:57:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H0mCL-0005K1-Fs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0mCL-0005Js-C7; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [134.60.1.1] (helo=mail.uni-ulm.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1H0mCI-0001pF-Qi; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:56:59 -0500 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBULupuK011479; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:56:51 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from viandante.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with SMTP id DACF512510; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:56:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 24424 invoked by uid 170); Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:55:05 -0000 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii X-Face: mtjf/D:es1T0wHO:&CJ'ZXe"l; 3C--rw\z!{`eFwL){|]RpI+4{u25L=5C /0>KuGeTsk<~<&NE-AKV1560e!+RJeyWmSskkrJm?[vUV#66{T_m|Ae<||Ku#Mk5`y&O`n~z2; n8eP J5#2h@2eQgV@E70IY_0WlEx!"&giy{+\%h1LJox$zv@/l%ZmU4^tZA>xQpnkUBVC5.jpg#0'(+2?Rs )NAr:>3<=WxHE$ktbLysDIM5TbmHu*3, Carsten Dominik , angeli@caeruleus.net, auctex-devel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat\, 30 Dec 2006 20\:03\:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-INFN-TO-Metrics: gemini 1233; Body=5 Fuz1=5 Fuz2=5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64530 gmane.emacs.auctex.devel:1485 Archived-At: On Sat, Dec 30 2006, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Carsten Dominik wrote: >> RefTeX has always had a life outside the Emacs CVS repository, >> to make it run with XEmacs and with non-CVS emacs. It is >> still fully compatible with Emacs 21, and it caters for XEmacs >> as well. >> There are many people who use RefTeX but still use Emacs 21, >> and even after the 22 release, this will be true for quite a >> while. > > Ralf said Emacs release cycle is too slow, but now you say that there > are many RefTeX users that still use Emacs 21. This sounds like a > contradiction to me. People who don't want to (or can't [1]) upgrade to Emacs 22 are not necessarily the same people as the ones who want a never version of $package. Some other example: Emacs 21 comes with Gnus 5.9 which was released in 1999 [2]. In case of [1], (s)he can still install a much more recent stable Gnus (5.10.8, released 2006; only bug fixes to 5.10.1, release 2003). > Anyway, I just wanted to say that developing an Emacs package outside > Emacs bears additional burden. ACK. If Miles wouldn't do the work of syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories, it would again imply much work for the next but one Emacs release. Bye, Reiner. [1] E.g. if the sysadmin doesn't wan to install non-release software. [2] Not only the long release cycle of Emacs, but also the long release cycle of Gnus is responsible for this. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/