From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PURESIZE increased (again) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:11:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87lku5u6tx.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1146229965 13424 80.91.229.2 (28 Apr 2006 13:12:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 28 15:12:43 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZSld-000317-Nm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:12:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZSlc-0001E8-Oi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:12:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FZSlP-0001C1-Ep for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FZSlO-0001BT-Ob for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZSlO-0001BG-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [134.60.1.1] (helo=mail.uni-ulm.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FZSoT-0002Rn-6L; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:15:14 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k3SDBqJ3024204; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:11:52 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix, from userid 170) id 60112117D7; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:11:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii X-Face: 1; h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB; kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm; %Od, emacs-devel@gnu.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.110005 (No Gnus v0.5) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-EATSERVER-Metrics: gemini 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53548 Archived-At: On Fri, Apr 28 2006, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Reiner Steib >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:56:12 +0200 >> >> I've set MYCPPFLAGS='-DENABLE_CHECKING=1'. > > I don't think this should matter, as it only activates some assertions > in the C code. > >> I use the same source tree for x86_64 and i686 with different >> exec-prefix: >> >> configure --prefix=[...]/HEAD --with-gtk \ >> --exec-prefix=[...]/HEAD-`uname -m` > > But you do compile in two different directories for each architecture, > right? That is, the source tree is common, but the build directories > are different, yes? Yes, I use a common source tree and two separate build directories. The source tree is in .../cvs-HEAD/emacs and the build directories are .../cvs-HEAD/`uname -m` (-> i686 and x86_64). > Or do you use the same directory, but clean it up between any two > builds? If the latter, how do you clean it? > >> I have some (minor, IMHO) local changes. I will try tomorrow without >> any local changes and report back again. Okay, the following results are with an unmodified, clean source tree[1] with configure ... && make bootstrap. I've put the complete logs for each arch (i686 and x86_64) on the web [2] in the files emacs-build-`date -I`-`uname -m`.log.gz (*.gz; 39K / 54K). During "make bootstrap", I get: ,----[ x86_64 ] | Finding pointers to doc strings...done | Dumping under names emacs and emacs-22.0.50 | 108788 pure bytes used | mv -f emacs bootstrap-emacs | [...] | Finding pointers to doc strings...done | Dumping under names emacs and emacs-22.0.50.1 | emacs:0:Pure Lisp storage overflow (approx. 2159640 bytes needed) | 1536 pure bytes used | ./emacs -q -batch -f list-load-path-shadows `---- ,----[ i686 ] | Finding pointers to doc strings...done | Dumping under names emacs and emacs-22.0.50 | 75284 pure bytes used | mv -f emacs bootstrap-emacs | [...] | Finding pointers to doc strings...done | Dumping under names emacs and emacs-22.0.50.1 | emacs:0:Pure Lisp storage overflow (approx. 1345256 bytes needed) | 608 pure bytes used | ./emacs -q -batch -f list-load-path-shadows `---- Here are the results for pure_bytes_used from running temacs under gdb ("run -batch -l loadup dump" with breakpoint in Fload) for both x86_64 and i686. The full gdb logs are in temacs-gdb-`date -I`-`uname -m`.log.gz on [2]. temacs-gdb-`date -I`-`uname -m`.pure.log.gz contain the relevant parts [3] which I include here in this message: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ~/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/x86_64/src$ gdb ./temacs GNU gdb 6.2.1 Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-suse-linux"...Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/tls/libthread_db.so.1". DISPLAY = localhost:11.0 TERM = xterm Breakpoint 1 at 0x556da0: file /home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/src/sysdep.c, line 1373. (gdb) break lread.c:717 Breakpoint 2 at 0x5e79dc: file /home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/src/lread.c, line 717. (gdb) run -batch -l loadup dump Starting program: /import/Archive/Groups/Productivity/Editors/Emacs/emacs/cvs-HEAD/x86_64/src/temacs -batch -l loadup dump [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 182940272320 (LWP 28159)] [Switching to Thread 182940272320 (LWP 28159)] Breakpoint 2, Fload (file=11077635, noerror=10658513, nomessage=10658513, nosuffix=10658513, must_suffix=10658513) at /home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/src/lread.c:718 718 register int fd = -1; (gdb) print pure_bytes_used $1 = 108747 $1 = 108747 (gdb) continue Continuing. Loading loadup.el (source)... Loading loadup.el (source)... Using load-path (/home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/lisp) Breakpoint 2, Fload (file=11080355, noerror=10658513, nomessage=10658513, nosuffix=10658513, must_suffix=10658513) at /home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/src/lread.c:718 718 register int fd = -1; (gdb) print pure_bytes_used $2 = 108788 $2 = 108788 Loading emacs-lisp/byte-run... $3 = 114536 Loading emacs-lisp/backquote... $4 = 118000 Loading subr... $5 = 205328 Loading version.el (source)... $6 = 208625 Loading widget... $7 = 209471 Loading custom... $8 = 241496 Loading emacs-lisp/map-ynp... $9 = 248473 Loading env... $10 = 253068 Loading cus-start... $11 = 255909 Loading international/mule... $12 = 317596 Loading international/mule-conf.el (source)... $13 = 327085 Loading format... $14 = 350864 Loading bindings... $15 = 388019 Loading files... $16 = 537811 Loading cus-face... $17 = 556913 Loading faces... $18 = 638354 Loading loaddefs.el (source)... $19 = 833869 Loading simple... $20 = 975911 Loading help... $21 = 1013912 Loading international/mule-cmds... $22 = 1092096 Loading case-table... $23 = 1097760 Loading international/utf-8... $24 = 1123530 Loading international/utf-16... $25 = 1176110 Loading international/characters... $26 = 1178958 Loading international/latin-1 (source)... $27 = 1178958 Loading international/latin-2 (source)... $28 = 1179000 Loading international/latin-3 (source)... $29 = 1179040 Loading international/latin-4 (source)... $30 = 1179080 Loading international/latin-5 (source)... $31 = 1179120 Loading international/latin-8 (source)... $32 = 1179160 Loading international/latin-9 (source)... $33 = 1179200 Loading language/chinese... $34 = 1190587 Loading language/cyrillic... $35 = 1202880 Loading language/indian... $36 = 1207624 Loading language/devanagari (source)... $37 = 1208048 Loading language/malayalam (source)... $38 = 1208280 Loading language/tamil (source)... $39 = 1208496 Loading language/kannada (source)... $40 = 1208900 Loading language/english (source)... $41 = 1209070 Loading language/ethiopic... $42 = 1210719 Loading language/european... $43 = 1230265 Loading language/czech (source)... $44 = 1230606 Loading language/slovak (source)... $45 = 1230943 Loading language/romanian (source)... $46 = 1231297 Loading language/greek (source)... $47 = 1232238 Loading language/hebrew (source)... $48 = 1233839 Loading language/japanese (source)... $49 = 1237937 Loading language/korean (source)... $50 = 1240159 Loading language/lao (source)... $51 = 1240888 Loading language/thai (source)... $52 = 1242613 Loading language/tibetan... $53 = 1289760 Loading language/vietnamese... $54 = 1295398 Loading language/misc-lang (source)... $55 = 1295570 Loading language/utf-8-lang (source)... $56 = 1296355 Loading language/georgian (source)... $57 = 1296673 Loading international/ucs-tables... $58 = 1306507 Loading indent... $59 = 1319816 Loading window... $60 = 1344802 Loading frame... $61 = 1379615 Loading term/tty-colors... $62 = 1387104 Loading font-core... $63 = 1394802 Loading facemenu... $64 = 1413149 Loading emacs-lisp/syntax... $65 = 1417976 Loading font-lock... $66 = 1469488 Loading jit-lock... $67 = 1483064 Loading mouse... $68 = 1534775 Loading scroll-bar... $69 = 1547197 Loading select... $70 = 1558271 Loading emacs-lisp/timer... $71 = 1574828 Loading isearch... $72 = 1635896 Loading rfn-eshadow... $73 = 1644164 Loading menu-bar... $74 = 1685082 Loading paths.el (source)... $75 = 1688572 Loading startup... $76 = 1748922 Loading emacs-lisp/lisp... $77 = 1765301 Loading textmodes/page... $78 = 1767933 Loading register... $79 = 1778450 Loading textmodes/paragraphs... $80 = 1788259 Loading emacs-lisp/lisp-mode... $81 = 1814516 Loading textmodes/text-mode... $82 = 1818898 Loading textmodes/fill... $83 = 1850601 Loading replace... $84 = 1896328 Loading abbrev... $85 = 1907316 Loading buff-menu... $86 = 1928794 Loading fringe... $87 = 1935824 Loading image... $88 = 1948064 Loading international/fontset... $89 = 1970371 Loading dnd... $90 = 1975446 Loading mwheel... $91 = 1984375 Loading tool-bar... $92 = 1993357 Loading x-dnd... $93 = 5574 Loading emacs-lisp/float-sup... $94 = 6232 Loading vc-hooks... $95 = 3081 Loading jka-cmpr-hook... $96 = 3062 Loading ediff-hook... $97 = 3343 Loading tooltip... $98 = 3192 $99 = 3234 (gdb) continue Continuing. Dumping under names emacs and emacs-22.0.50.2 emacs:0:Pure Lisp storage overflow (approx. 2159640 bytes needed) 1536 pure bytes used Program exited normally. (gdb) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ~/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/i686/src$ gdb ./temacs GNU gdb 6.2.1 Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i586-suse-linux"...Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1". DISPLAY = localhost:12.0 TERM = xterm Breakpoint 1 at 0x8185989: file /home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/src/sysdep.c, line 1393. (gdb) break lread.c:717 Breakpoint 2 at 0x821014c: file /home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/src/lread.c, line 717. (gdb) run -batch -l loadup dump Starting program: /import/Archive/Groups/Productivity/Editors/Emacs/emacs/cvs-HEAD/i686/src/temacs -batch -l loadup dump [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 1083362592 (LWP 12468)] [Switching to Thread 1083362592 (LWP 12468)] Breakpoint 2, Fload (file=138854739, noerror=138630009, nomessage=138630009, nosuffix=138630009, must_suffix=138630009) at /home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/src/lread.c:718 718 register int fd = -1; (gdb) print pure_bytes_used $1 = 75259 $1 = 75259 (gdb) continue Continuing. Loading loadup.el (source)... Loading loadup.el (source)... Using load-path (/home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/lisp) Breakpoint 2, Fload (file=138858059, noerror=138630009, nomessage=138630009, nosuffix=138630009, must_suffix=138630009) at /home/dept/ste/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD/emacs/src/lread.c:718 718 register int fd = -1; (gdb) print pure_bytes_used $2 = 75284 $2 = 75284 Loading emacs-lisp/byte-run... $3 = 78752 Loading emacs-lisp/backquote... $4 = 80996 Loading subr... $5 = 134560 Loading version.el (source)... $6 = 136543 Loading widget... $7 = 137055 Loading custom... $8 = 156712 Loading emacs-lisp/map-ynp... $9 = 161145 Loading env... $10 = 164028 Loading cus-start... $11 = 165893 Loading international/mule... $12 = 205060 Loading international/mule-conf.el (source)... $13 = 212149 Loading format... $14 = 226984 Loading bindings... $15 = 250075 Loading files... $16 = 343443 Loading cus-face... $17 = 354265 Loading faces... $18 = 402666 Loading loaddefs.el (source)... $19 = 536045 Loading simple... $20 = 623551 Loading help... $21 = 648524 Loading international/mule-cmds... $22 = 696932 Loading case-table... $23 = 700388 Loading international/utf-8... $24 = 715498 Loading international/utf-16... $25 = 744694 Loading international/characters... $26 = 746662 Loading international/latin-1 (source)... $27 = 746662 Loading international/latin-2 (source)... $28 = 746688 Loading international/latin-3 (source)... $29 = 746712 Loading international/latin-4 (source)... $30 = 746736 Loading international/latin-5 (source)... $31 = 746760 Loading international/latin-8 (source)... $32 = 746784 Loading international/latin-9 (source)... $33 = 746808 Loading language/chinese... $34 = 754027 Loading language/cyrillic... $35 = 762104 Loading language/indian... $36 = 765160 Loading language/devanagari (source)... $37 = 765432 Loading language/malayalam (source)... $38 = 765576 Loading language/tamil (source)... $39 = 765704 Loading language/kannada (source)... $40 = 765956 Loading language/english (source)... $41 = 766070 Loading language/ethiopic... $42 = 767351 Loading language/european... $43 = 781289 Loading language/czech (source)... $44 = 781502 Loading language/slovak (source)... $45 = 781711 Loading language/romanian (source)... $46 = 781937 Loading language/greek (source)... $47 = 782614 Loading language/hebrew (source)... $48 = 783751 Loading language/japanese (source)... $49 = 786649 Loading language/korean (source)... $50 = 788231 Loading language/lao (source)... $51 = 788736 Loading language/thai (source)... $52 = 789949 Loading language/tibetan... $53 = 818144 Loading language/vietnamese... $54 = 821998 Loading language/misc-lang (source)... $55 = 822098 Loading language/utf-8-lang (source)... $56 = 822555 Loading language/georgian (source)... $57 = 822769 Loading international/ucs-tables... $58 = 829083 Loading indent... $59 = 837056 Loading window... $60 = 852034 Loading frame... $61 = 873295 Loading term/tty-colors... $62 = 877872 Loading font-core... $63 = 882682 Loading facemenu... $64 = 893621 Loading emacs-lisp/syntax... $65 = 896756 Loading font-lock... $66 = 928936 Loading jit-lock... $67 = 937152 Loading mouse... $68 = 969623 Loading scroll-bar... $69 = 977069 Loading select... $70 = 983919 Loading emacs-lisp/timer... $71 = 994052 Loading isearch... $72 = 1031464 Loading rfn-eshadow... $73 = 1036460 Loading menu-bar... $74 = 1062514 Loading paths.el (source)... $75 = 1065212 Loading startup... $76 = 1103578 Loading emacs-lisp/lisp... $77 = 1113445 Loading textmodes/page... $78 = 1115053 Loading register... $79 = 1121610 Loading textmodes/paragraphs... $80 = 1127723 Loading emacs-lisp/lisp-mode... $81 = 1144212 Loading textmodes/text-mode... $82 = 1146906 Loading textmodes/fill... $83 = 1166169 Loading replace... $84 = 1194136 Loading abbrev... $85 = 1200676 Loading buff-menu... $86 = 8962 Loading fringe... $87 = 3236 Loading image... $88 = 728 Loading international/fontset... $89 = 4771 Loading dnd... $90 = 7838 Loading mwheel... $91 = 3199 Loading tool-bar... $92 = 8501 Loading x-dnd... $93 = 1606 Loading emacs-lisp/float-sup... $94 = 2008 Loading vc-hooks... $95 = 8281 Loading jka-cmpr-hook... $96 = 4374 Loading ediff-hook... $97 = 4535 Loading tooltip... $98 = 600 $99 = 626 (gdb) continue Continuing. Dumping under names emacs and emacs-22.0.50.2 emacs:0:Pure Lisp storage overflow (approx. 1345256 bytes needed) 608 pure bytes used Program exited normally. (gdb) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Finally, in footnotes [4] and [5] there is some information about the machines (CPU, gcc, gdb). Both machine are running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.2), 32 and 64 version respectively with all current security patches available from SUSE. glibc is glibc-2.3.3-118 on both machines. Someone pointed out that the filenames (or the directory) might be stored. The real directory name is quite long, see [1]. Let me know if other information might be useful. Bye, Reiner. [1] $ cd ~/src/links/emacs/cvs-HEAD $ /bin/pwd /import/Archive/Groups/Productivity/Editors/Emacs/emacs/cvs-HEAD $ cd emacs $ cvs update (on 2006-04-28 approx. at 12:43 CEST) $ cvs diff -u > ../rs-`date -I`.patch $ patch -R -p0 < ../rs-`date -I`.patch $ cd .. $ find i686/ x86_64/ -name '*.o'|xargs -r rm $ find emacs/ -name '*.elc'|xargs -r rm On each host I run a shell script which basically does... (all details in emacs-build-`date -I`-`uname -m`.log.gz on [2] $ export MYCPPFLAGS='-DENABLE_CHECKING=1' $ cd `uname -m` $ ../emacs/configure --prefix=/import/xtra/emacs/HEAD --with-gtk \ --exec-prefix=/import/xtra/emacs/HEAD-`uname -m` && make bootstrap [2] [3] $ sed -ne '1,35p;/^\$[0-9]* = /p;/^Loading/p;919,1000p' \ < temacs-gdb-`date -I`-`uname -m`.log \ > temacs-gdb-`date -I`-`uname -m`.pure.log [4] The x86_64 machine has an AMD Athlon CPU: $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 31 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 2202.859 cache size : 512 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow ts bogomips : 4308.99 TLB size : 1088 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp $ gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/lib64/gcc-lib/x86_64-suse-linux/3.3.4/specs Configured with: ../configure --enable-threads=posix --prefix=/usr --with-local-prefix=/usr/local --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-languages=c,c++,f77,objc,java,ada --disable-checking --libdir=/usr/lib64 --enable-libgcj --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/g++ --with-slibdir=/lib64 --with-system-zlib --enable-shared --enable-__cxa_atexit x86_64-suse-linux Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3.4 (pre 3.3.5 20040809) $ gdb -v GNU gdb 6.2.1 Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-suse-linux". [5] The "i686" machine has two Intel Xeon CPUs: $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz stepping : 9 cpu MHz : 2400.431 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips : 4751.36 processor : 1 [...] processor : 2 [...] processor : 3 [...] $ gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-suse-linux/3.3.4/specs Configured with: ../configure --enable-threads=posix --prefix=/usr --with-local-prefix=/usr/local --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-languages=c,c++,f77,objc,java,ada --disable-checking --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-libgcj --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/g++ --with-slibdir=/lib --with-system-zlib --enable-shared --enable-__cxa_atexit i586-suse-linux Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3.4 (pre 3.3.5 20040809) $ gdb -v GNU gdb 6.2.1 Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i586-suse-linux".