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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Philip Hodges <philip.hodges@bluewin.ch>
Cc: 17330@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17330: files.el cd-absolute overcome false negative from file-executable-p
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 20:24:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <v4n17btgb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41559D99-B080-4B34-B491-3A811FA9FEAE@bluewin.ch> (Philip Hodges's message of "Wed, 23 Apr 2014 22:54:18 +0200")

Philip Hodges wrote:

> [using emacs-w32.exe 24.3 in cygwin but also applies to other platforms.]
>
> Symptom:
> When I try to cd to my samba-mounted directory,
> or try to run ediff-files, it refuses with the error
> "Cannot cd to my_directory_name: Permission denied"
> The same directory opens fine in dired-mode, and I can open files within it.

> This is just one way in which file-executable-p can produce a false negative,
> where executing the file or searching the directory may succeed after all.
>
> [False positives, where the operation refuses, have no impact so long as
> the operation fails quickly with an equivalent but authoritative error message.]
>
> This is typical of many situations where it is not good enough just
> to check quickly whether it just looks like it can or cannot be done;
> you have to also actually try it, and report the outcome of
> that particular attempt at that particular moment.
> A preliminary check may still be useful too if it produces a better error
> message quickly up front with no dashed expectations or cleaning up to do.
>
> The comments in fileio.c check_executable (and check_writeable) point out
> that on some filesystems there might be an access control list (ACL) in force,
> and that the effective user might have more permission than the real user.


Perhaps there is something Cygwin-specific at work, because I don't
think I can reproduce such a problem on eg RHEL 6.5 GNU/Linux.

As user A:
mkdir foo1 foo2
chmod 700 foo1 foo2
setfacl -m u:b:r-x foo1

As user B:
In the shell: [ -x foo1 ]      # -> true

In Emacs 24.3: file-executable-p foo1   ; -> true


(There's also file-accessible-directory-p; does that work any better for
you?).






  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-03  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-23 20:54 bug#17330: files.el cd-absolute overcome false negative from file-executable-p Philip Hodges
2014-05-03  0:24 ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2014-05-03  9:17   ` Philip Hodges
2014-05-03  9:35     ` Achim Gratz
2014-05-03 13:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-03 13:58         ` Achim Gratz
2014-05-03 16:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-03 13:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-04  4:16     ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-04 13:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-04 16:18         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-04 18:07         ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-04 22:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-09  6:54             ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-03 22:43 ` bug#17330: thanks for the comments Philip Hodges
2014-05-04 13:24   ` bug#17330: files.el cd-absolute overcome false negative from file-executable-p Philip Hodges
2014-05-04 16:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-05 22:43       ` Philip Hodges
2014-05-06  7:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-06 12:46         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-06 16:56           ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-11 13:55             ` Philip Hodges
2014-05-06  4:15 ` Glenn Morris
     [not found] <E6923B15-B9A8-4B3C-ADDF-713810613ADD@bluewin.ch>
2014-05-07 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-08  5:55   ` Philip Hodges
2014-05-08  7:09     ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-08 16:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-11 10:46       ` Philip Hodges
2014-05-11 17:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-11 18:26           ` Philip Hodges
2014-05-11 18:38             ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-11 21:59               ` Philip Hodges
2014-05-12  7:10                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-12  7:26                   ` Philip Hodges
2021-10-23  5:09               ` Stefan Kangas
2014-05-11 18:43             ` Eli Zaretskii

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