From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22308: intermittent problem generating autoloads Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:39:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83k2no66e6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452015619 11095 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2016 17:40:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22308@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 18:40:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVac-0004pk-Bq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 18:40:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50800 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVaY-0007r1-Fo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:40:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVaV-0007qr-9J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:40:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVaU-0003f5-FD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:40:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50824) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVaU-0003f1-Bj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:40:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVaU-00043S-7n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:40:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 17:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22308 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22308-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22308.145201558015548 (code B ref 22308); Tue, 05 Jan 2016 17:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22308) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2016 17:39:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39044 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVa7-00042i-UO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:39:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59284) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVa5-00042R-Ve for 22308@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:39:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVa0-0003XI-4b for 22308@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:39:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVa0-0003XE-16 for 22308@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:39:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aGVZz-0000l9-An; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:39:31 -0500 X-Spook: Trojan JFK Torreon USCG 2600 Magazine Cyber Command X-Ran: #:oK\;lBn71ZRWZDaV~JJuj\*nV6BRJSg[Ma%ILQ_hc|2OUmuU&lXpIDAI/l"|"jVOrw2> X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <83k2no66e6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 05 Jan 2016 05:40:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111246 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > When that happens, do you see binary null bytes in the autoloads file? As I've said before, I have no special access to hydra. The output of failed builds is not kept, so we don't have that file. I have seen similar issues twice in my own daily builds (in mid-Dec), so the issue is not specific to hydra. > This stopped happening for me since the undo issues were fixed on the > emacs-25 branch. I thought that was what fixed these. Maybe yours was a different issue (I'm surprised undo has any relevance to autoload generation). > I cannot debug this unless it happens again. It's a Heisenbug. If it happens again on hydra you'll get no more information than you have now. Suggestions: make autoloads many times (using bootstrap-emacs may be relevant) in a loop till it happens again insert anticipatory debug code into autoload.el