From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Post-mortem debugging and abort Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:37:57 +0300 Message-ID: References: <86od65gyyr.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <8663sdgu1p.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213436307 14085 80.91.229.12 (14 Jun 2008 09:38:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 14 11:39:10 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K7SDw-0002z8-Cy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:39:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50649 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K7SD8-0001ry-CM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:38:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K7SCz-0001qH-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K7SCy-0001pT-Bk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:38:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44419 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K7SCy-0001pM-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:38:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il ([84.95.2.19]:18237) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K7SCt-0007sJ-Hp; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:37:59 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.242.237]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K2G000G24NH4U50@i-mtaout7.012.net.il>; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:21:17 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <8663sdgu1p.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99166 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:48:34 +0200 > > Well, the whole difference between exit (or maybe _exit?) and abort is > the core dump, and that is why abort rather than exit is also called on > failed assertions. So debugging is the whole point of abort and > declaring it in a way that precludes debugging is a bit pointless. And even if they disagree about this, GCC and glibc could have behaved differently under -g.