From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:56:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <86d03bpqsw.fsf@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16254"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: Wayne Harris , Emacs developers To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 10:57:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kBaC8-00045l-9N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:57:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54656 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBaC7-0000yg-Bm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 04:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39028) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBaBA-00007X-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 04:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: from dev.gentoo.org ([2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]:49711 helo=smtp.gentoo.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBaB7-0000oy-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 04:56:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Fri, 28 Aug 2020 11:44:01 +0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4; envelope-from=ulm@gentoo.org; helo=smtp.gentoo.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/28 04:56:07 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254349 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020, Yuri Khan wrote: >> However, I >> think `` =E2=80=93 Emacs'' is kind of useless. I like useful informatio= n. > The name of the application in the title is useful. It helps you pick > the Emacs window out of multiple applications operating on the same > file. For example, a Dired buffer showing a directory and Thunar > showing the same directory. > This is important in contexts where the window contents are not > visible, e.g. a taskbar showing minimized windows, or a > tiling/tabbing/stacking window manager such as i3 showing a single > window in the stack and the titles of all other windows in the same > stack. An early historic data point: Emacs 18.59 used to display "emacs: Emacs @ " in the window title (and yes, they called it "window" rather than "frame" at the time). Maybe one should find out what led to the decision to change that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence