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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why shouldn't we have a #if .... #else .... #endif construct in Emacs Lisp?
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2023 10:14:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uzg21m3z7@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZO0VxowBjg33g8pX@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Mon, 28 Aug 2023 21:46:46 +0000")

>>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

>> Sorry, I should have been clearer. The full construct would look like
>> this:

>> (when (eval-when-compile (< emacs-major-version 24))
>> (defadvice .....))

> Ah!  So the eval-when-compile gets compiled to a constant nil or t, and
> the byte compiler optimises the test of this out, either compiling or
> not compiling the (defadvice .....).  Thanks!  I hadn't been aware of
> that little detail.

>> So only the test would be evaluated at compile time, the defadvice
>> itself would be compiled normally (or not, if the test fails).

I've just tested with current master. Byte-compiling this:

   (static-if (> emacs-major-version 24)
       (message "new emacs")
     (message "old emacs"))

and this:

   (if (eval-when-compile (> emacs-major-version 24))
       (message "new emacs")
     (message "old emacs"))

results in identical byte code.

> However, when evaluating the containing defun/defmacro rather than byte
> compiling it, the irritating warning message will appear with the e-w-c
> strategem, but not with hash-if.  ;-)

Sorry, I cannot reproduce this problem. Could you give an example?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-05  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-28 19:37 Why shouldn't we have a #if .... #else .... #endif construct in Emacs Lisp? Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-28 19:47 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-28 20:06   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-28 21:01     ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-28 21:46       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-31  2:07         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31  7:50           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-04  1:34             ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 10:50               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-04 11:02                 ` tomas
2023-09-04 15:19                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-04 18:57                     ` tomas
2023-09-06  0:58                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06  0:58                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06  7:28                   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-06  9:31                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-06  9:56                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-09  0:39                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 10:32                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10  0:22                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-10  8:36                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-13 23:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-20 12:59                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05  0:30           ` Why have a #if .... #else .... #endif construct in Emacs Lisp, when we could make the existing code DTRT unchanged? Richard Stallman
2023-09-05  0:41             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-08 17:54               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-05  4:37             ` tomas
2023-09-05  5:53               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05  6:28                 ` tomas
2023-09-05 11:06             ` Adam Porter
2023-09-05 11:26             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-09-05 14:11             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-08  1:01               ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-08  2:45                 ` Po Lu
2023-09-10  0:24                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-05  8:14         ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2023-08-28 19:53 ` Why shouldn't we have a #if .... #else .... #endif construct in Emacs Lisp? Emanuel Berg
2023-08-29  9:19   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-29 10:36   ` João Távora
2023-08-29 11:09     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-29 11:20       ` João Távora
2023-08-30 20:48         ` Sean Whitton
2023-08-30 20:59           ` João Távora
2023-09-02 23:12     ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-09-03  0:18       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-03 12:27       ` João Távora
2023-08-29 12:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-29 13:23   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-02 23:09   ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-08-29 16:28 ` LdBeth
2023-08-29 20:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-30 10:31   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-30 17:36     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-30 18:03       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-30 18:17         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-02 15:06           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-02 15:17             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-02 19:43               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-03  4:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 10:48                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-03 11:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 13:24                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-02 19:20             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-02 19:37               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-02 19:58               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-04 11:12                 ` Lynn Winebarger

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