From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: File menu changes (suggestions)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:19:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <uy88ve93q.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICKENICJAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>
> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:13:48 -0700
>
> FYI, "One Window" is what we had before Emacs 21.1. Like I said: we
> are regressing.
>
> Not all movement from one version to the next is progress. It happens
> sometimes that previous behavior was better than current behavior. Life is
> like that, sometimes.
With all due respect, I don't know where you get the right to talk
about the 21.1 menu design with such an arrogance. That design was
based on a lot of research. Menus of quite a few other GUI programs
were studied, as well as various GUI design guidelines for popular
toolkits. The initial version based on that research was then
scrutinized in prolonged discussions, and what went into v21.1 was the
best solution we could find to the various issues and problems raised
in those discussions.
By contrast, your suggestions are based on opinions of a single
individual.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-27 22:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-19 23:25 File menu changes (suggestions) Drew Adams
2005-06-20 4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-20 7:03 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-20 16:53 ` Drew Adams
2005-06-20 20:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-20 20:48 ` Drew Adams
2005-06-21 2:01 ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-21 7:59 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-06-21 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-26 4:46 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26 5:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 22:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26 22:52 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 23:13 ` Drew Adams
2005-06-27 7:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 7:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-06-27 9:25 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 13:29 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-28 4:16 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 18:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 18:20 ` Drew Adams
2005-06-26 19:41 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
[not found] ` <42BF0E53.2020505@student.lu.se>
2005-06-27 12:51 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:31 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 17:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-06-28 1:57 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:24 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 16:18 ` Drew Adams
2005-06-27 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 18:13 ` Drew Adams
2005-06-27 22:19 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-06-27 22:33 ` Drew Adams
2005-06-28 4:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-28 6:36 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-26 18:30 ` Jason Rumney
2005-06-27 2:06 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 6:31 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 13:26 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 9:19 ` Jason Rumney
2005-06-27 9:41 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 20:05 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 20:47 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-27 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 5:38 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-27 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 11:40 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-27 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <42C044F3.60606@student.lu.se>
[not found] ` <uzmtbeam9.fsf@gnu.org>
2005-06-27 21:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 18:46 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-28 18:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-29 16:05 ` Sticks! (was: File menu changes (suggestions)) Drew Adams
2005-06-28 4:17 ` File menu changes (suggestions) Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-28 6:39 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-28 5:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-28 7:17 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 10:05 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-30 21:30 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-30 22:15 ` Miles Bader
2005-07-01 22:45 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-02 2:32 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-28 15:28 ` Drew Adams
2005-06-28 16:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-28 21:36 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-28 22:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-30 7:40 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-29 3:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-29 4:45 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-29 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-29 23:46 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-30 1:44 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-30 5:38 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-29 20:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-01 1:45 ` public
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-21 15:51 File menu changes (suggestions) / Options menu David Reitter
2005-06-22 12:32 ` File menu changes (suggestions) John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23 0:46 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23 2:26 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23 2:31 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23 11:18 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23 11:39 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-24 5:36 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-25 1:24 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-25 16:40 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-24 10:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 19:04 David Reitter
2005-06-27 5:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-27 8:04 LENNART BORGMAN
2005-06-27 9:24 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 20:01 ` Johan Bockgård
2005-06-30 8:53 LENNART BORGMAN
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