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* New start up splash screen annoyance...
@ 2007-09-09 13:56 Sascha Wilde
  2007-09-09 14:40 ` Leo
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  0 siblings, 4 replies; 295+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Wilde @ 2007-09-09 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Hi *,

basically I like the idea of a configurable start-up behavior.  But
the current implementation is IMNSHO very flawed:

- First and most annoying: starting Emacs with an file to visit as
  argument no longer works as expected.  Without doing any configuration
  you always get the new splash screen and of cause C-l or starting
  editing doesn't make it go away.  You can switch to the buffer with
  the file using C-x C-b, but the splash screen doesn't tell you that.

I would like to have the old behavior back:  if a file name was given
on the command line the user definitely wants to edit that file, and
so any editing/movement/redraw command should switch to that files
buffer immediately.  In case people don't agree on that, the splash
screen should at least mention how to enter the buffer.

- Second, and maybe even worse: None of the settings for
  initial-buffer-choice restores the old behavior.  One might expect,
  that setting initial-buffer-choice to t (open *scratch* buffer)
  would be the right choice, but it isn't.  If set that way, the
  annoying behavior described above stays with the only differences,
  that the *scratch* buffer is opened and stays, even if a file to
  edit was given on start-up.

One would expect that at least one value of initial-buffer-choice
would restore the old behavior, which many of use are used to and
which at least me likes best: open *scratch* as default but open the
buffer(s) for the given files from the command line if there were
any. 

The only working solution is to set inhibit-splash-screen to t
and leave initial-buffer-choice nil -- which is a pity as the new
possibility of customizing the default behavior is lost.

- Third, as setting inhibit-splash-screen is the only (and as far as I
  can see not ell documented) way to get back the old behavior, it is
  a (minor) annoyance that inhibit-splash-screen not only turns of the
  splash screen, but the initial message in the *scratch* buffer too.
  Actually I never understood why this two things are configured by
  only one variable.

cheers
sascha
-- 
Sascha Wilde
    "Liebet eure Feinde, vielleicht schadet das ihrem Ruf" 
    (Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)

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2007-09-09 13:56 New start up splash screen annoyance Sascha Wilde
2007-09-09 14:40 ` Leo
2007-09-09 17:32 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-09 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-09 21:20   ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-09 23:52     ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10 16:53       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 17:00         ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 18:19           ` Leo
2007-09-11 20:31             ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11 21:33               ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 22:59                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10 17:28         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 20:31           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11 20:57             ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12  2:48               ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Bill Wohler
2007-09-12  5:44                 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs David Kastrup
2007-09-12  5:57                   ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-12  7:06                     ` dhruva
2007-09-12  7:55                       ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13  9:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 11:36                         ` Michael Albinus
2007-09-13  8:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-12  7:17                   ` Tramp (was: Folding emacsclient into emacs) Bill Wohler
2007-09-12  8:03                     ` Tramp David Kastrup
2007-09-12  8:17                     ` Tramp Michael Albinus
2007-09-12 20:20                   ` Folding emacsclient into emacs Tom Tromey
2007-09-12 20:48                     ` Leo
2007-09-13  6:10                     ` Jan Djärv
2007-09-12 11:17                 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 11:25                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 11:37                   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-12 15:08                   ` Folding emacsclient into emacs Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 15:15                   ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12 23:36                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 18:52                   ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Richard Stallman
2007-09-12 19:08                     ` Folding emacsclient into emacs David Kastrup
2007-09-13  7:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13  7:45                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13  7:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13  7:59                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13  8:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13  9:04                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 11:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-14  7:05                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14  8:22                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-15  2:09                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15  5:56                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-15 18:07                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-16  4:08                                 ` dhruva
2007-09-16  7:32                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-16 10:57                                     ` dhruva
2007-09-16 11:11                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-09-16 11:27                                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-19 23:45                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20  0:56                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20  1:24                                       ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20  8:50                                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20 10:12                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 18:34                                           ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-21 12:23                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-12 16:34                 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Davis Herring
2007-09-12  7:02               ` New start up splash screen annoyance Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-12 14:07                 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12  9:39             ` Johannes Weiner
2007-09-12 12:36               ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 18:52               ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-13  7:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13  8:21                   ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13  8:24                     ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13  8:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13  8:36                   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-13  8:55                     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14  7:05                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 11:12                   ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-14 18:54                   ` Romain Francoise
2007-09-13 23:43                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-14  6:13                   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14 18:43                     ` Romain Francoise
2007-09-14 20:15                     ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-14 21:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-14 21:38                         ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-15 14:48                         ` Michael Albinus
2007-09-15 21:23                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-16  5:34                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14  7:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-15  2:09                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15  8:04                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15  8:18                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-16  5:33                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-16  7:25                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-17  0:20                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-17  5:55                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-17 22:24                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18  5:39                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18  9:30                                   ` Leo
2007-09-18 10:01                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 15:00                                   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-18 15:34                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 16:51                                       ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-19  3:18                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19  5:45                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 16:33                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 13:52                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-19 14:10                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-19 16:33                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-18 20:02                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-18 22:17                                       ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-18 19:34                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 21:01                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 22:08                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-19 15:49                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 23:46                                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20  0:24                                           ` Leo
2007-09-21 12:23                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 11:16                                         ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-20 14:17                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-20 15:30                                             ` dhruva
2007-09-20 15:39                                               ` Davis Herring
2007-09-20 15:52                                                 ` Bastien
2007-09-20 15:56                                               ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 15:49                                             ` Bastien
2007-09-21 16:21                                               ` Bastien
2007-09-21 17:42                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-21 18:01                                                   ` Sean Sieger
2007-09-21 19:38                                                   ` Bastien
2007-09-21 17:46                                                 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-22 11:57                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 17:45                                           ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-20 18:35                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 19:12                                               ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 19:19                                                 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20 20:13                                                   ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 20:22                                                     ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20 23:57                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-21  7:18                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-21 22:34                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-22 14:11                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 18:40                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 18:52                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-22 19:20                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-22 20:03                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 20:43                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-09-22 23:48                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-23  0:33                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23  5:39                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-23  7:43                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 15:05                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:20                                                                               ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 18:19                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-24 22:08                                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 17:57                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:30                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 18:40                                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 18:59                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 19:25                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 19:45                                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26  0:35                                                                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-26  1:54                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-26 14:01                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-26 14:05                                                                                               ` David Kastrup
2007-09-26 15:18                                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 21:56                                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-26 15:10                                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 18:47                                                                                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-25 19:08                                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 20:27                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 16:43                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:19                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 22:52                                                                               ` David Reitter
2007-09-24 18:19                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-24 18:37                                                                                   ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:14                                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 17:58                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:33                                                                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 18:38                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 19:37                                                                                         ` David Reitter
2007-09-25 21:03                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26  7:59                                                                                             ` David Reitter
2007-09-26 14:59                                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 16:03                                                                                                 ` David Reitter
2007-09-26 16:15                                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 16:10                                                                                                 ` echo area clicks: *Messages* David Reitter
2007-09-26 16:49                                                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 20:40                                                                                   ` New start up splash screen annoyance Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-25 17:57                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:18                                                                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25  5:01                                                                                   ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-25 23:36                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 14:06                                                                           ` Didier Verna
2007-09-23 16:44                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 19:33                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-23 20:42                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24  1:16                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24  2:00                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 20:16                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-24 16:59                                                                             ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:25                                                                               ` Didier Verna
2007-09-23 15:05                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:25                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 16:43                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 15:46                                                                             ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-23 16:44                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:19                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-26  7:03                                                                           ` Didier Verna
2007-09-26 16:29                                                                             ` mode line [X] Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 13:46                                                                       ` New start up splash screen annoyance Didier Verna
2007-09-22 20:01                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23  4:24                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-23  7:50                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 11:22                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 22:33                                                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-24  6:03                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 18:19                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:05                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 19:00                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 18:42                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 20:07                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:15                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:54                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:16                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 15:05                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 20:17                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-24 18:19                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23  9:07                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 20:23                                                     ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 19:28                                               ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-21 22:33                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-22 14:12                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23  9:07                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 11:22                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 21:55                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 23:55                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-25 10:44                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 20:28                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-21 17:37                                         ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-22 11:57                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 14:59                                     ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-20 16:34                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18  8:15                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-09-16  9:27                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-17 22:03                         ` Davis Herring
2007-09-17 22:43                           ` Drew Adams
2007-09-18  5:25                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18  5:43                               ` dhruva
2007-09-15 10:17                     ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-15 10:40                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-15 18:55                         ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-15 22:10                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-17  0:20                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 21:20                             ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-19 15:49                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 18:57                         ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-16  4:41                         ` tomas
2007-09-16 20:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-16 22:12                             ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-17  4:04                             ` tomas
2007-09-16  5:33                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-17 22:08                     ` Davis Herring
2007-09-13  7:52             ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13  8:03               ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14  7:05               ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14  7:51                 ` Jason Rumney
2007-09-14  8:19                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-10 16:53     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 19:09       ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 22:07         ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 23:10           ` Leo
2007-09-10 23:19             ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 23:24               ` Leo
2007-09-12  0:40           ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-14  8:11             ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-09 21:27   ` Jason Rumney
2007-09-09 21:44     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-10  1:13     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-09 23:48   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-03 20:18   ` KingBolete
2007-10-04 17:27     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-08  4:16       ` tomas
2007-10-08 19:16         ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-09 20:03           ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-10 21:27             ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-10 22:36               ` Pure space overflow in Emacs 22 (was: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Sven Joachim
2007-11-10 22:43                 ` Pure space overflow in Emacs 22 Juri Linkov
2007-10-09  1:14         ` New start up splash screen annoyance Richard Stallman
2007-10-09  6:39           ` tomas
2007-10-26  5:21             ` tomas
2007-09-09 23:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10  2:33   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-10  5:19     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 20:30       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 23:55     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11  0:45       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-11  5:47         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-12  8:45         ` Richard Stallman

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