tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Zhang Wei]

[...]
makeinfo --force tramp.texi
tramp.texi:3152: Unknown command `indent'.
tramp.texi:3153: Unknown command `indent'.
tramp.texi:3154: Unknown command `indent'.
tramp.texi:3155: Unknown command `indent'.
tramp.texi:3156: Unknown command `indent'.
tramp.texi:3157: Unknown command `indent'.
tramp.texi:3158: Unknown command `indent'.
tramp.texi:3159: Unknown command `indent'.
tramp.texi:3160: Unknown command `indent'.
make[1]: *** [../info/tramp] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/d/download/emacs-merge-gbk/man'
make: *** [info-gmake] Error 2

D:\download\emacs-merge-gbk\nt>makeinfo --version
makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.3

Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
There is NO warranty.  You may redistribute this software
under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the files named COPYING.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
    `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
c:/Emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions.


In GNU Emacs 22.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2007-07-11 on BREP
modified by Zhangwei <id.brep@gmail.com>.
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.2)'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: zh_CN
  locale-coding-system: cp936
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  auto-image-file-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  pc-selection-mode: t
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

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Re: tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Michael Albinus]

Zhang Wei <id.brep@gmail.com> writes:

> makeinfo --force tramp.texi
> tramp.texi:3152: Unknown command `indent'.
> tramp.texi:3153: Unknown command `indent'.
> tramp.texi:3154: Unknown command `indent'.
> tramp.texi:3155: Unknown command `indent'.
> tramp.texi:3156: Unknown command `indent'.
> tramp.texi:3157: Unknown command `indent'.
> tramp.texi:3158: Unknown command `indent'.
> tramp.texi:3159: Unknown command `indent'.
> tramp.texi:3160: Unknown command `indent'.
> make[1]: *** [../info/tramp] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/d/download/emacs-merge-gbk/man'
> make: *** [info-gmake] Error 2
>
> D:\download\emacs-merge-gbk\nt>makeinfo --version
> makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.3

Tramp's 2.1.10 INSTALL file says:

| For installation, it requires at least the following program versions:
| 
|   [...]
|   - GNU texinfo 4.6

Emacs' 22.1.50 FAQ (info "(efaq) Installing Texinfo documentation")
refers to GNU texinfo 4.8.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Glenn Morris]

Michael Albinus wrote:

> | For installation, it requires at least the following program versions:
> | 
> |   [...]
> |   - GNU texinfo 4.6
>
> Emacs' 22.1.50 FAQ (info "(efaq) Installing Texinfo documentation")
> refers to GNU texinfo 4.8.

I've added a configure check for makeinfo >= 4.8. Not sure if this is
the oldest version that works.

Re: tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:41:54 +0200
> Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
> 
> Zhang Wei <id.brep@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > makeinfo --force tramp.texi
> > tramp.texi:3152: Unknown command `indent'.
> > tramp.texi:3153: Unknown command `indent'.
> > tramp.texi:3154: Unknown command `indent'.
> > tramp.texi:3155: Unknown command `indent'.
> > tramp.texi:3156: Unknown command `indent'.
> > tramp.texi:3157: Unknown command `indent'.
> > tramp.texi:3158: Unknown command `indent'.
> > tramp.texi:3159: Unknown command `indent'.
> > tramp.texi:3160: Unknown command `indent'.
> > make[1]: *** [../info/tramp] Error 2
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/d/download/emacs-merge-gbk/man'
> > make: *** [info-gmake] Error 2
> >
> > D:\download\emacs-merge-gbk\nt>makeinfo --version
> > makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.3
> 
> Tramp's 2.1.10 INSTALL file says:
> 
> | For installation, it requires at least the following program versions:
> | 
> |   [...]
> |   - GNU texinfo 4.6

Michael, if @indent is the only feature of Texinfo 4.6 that you need,
how about if we rewrite that node to not use this command?  From what
I see in that node, a simple @enumerate should do, right?

Re: tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:59:21 -0400
> Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Zhang Wei <id.brep@gmail.com>
> 
> I've added a configure check for makeinfo >= 4.8. Not sure if this is
> the oldest version that works.

Since Tramp requires 4.6, obviously 4.6 is good enough.  I think you
should rewrite that test to require 4.6 or later.  There's no need to
be tougher with the users than is absolutely necessary.

I hope Michael will agree to rewrite the manual to not use @indent, in
which case we could ask for 4.3 or later.

Re: tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Michael Albinus]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Michael, if @indent is the only feature of Texinfo 4.6 that you need,
> how about if we rewrite that node to not use this command?  From what
> I see in that node, a simple @enumerate should do, right?

Looks like this. Tramp's test.texi, used for checks during configure
when installed standalone, reads:

+---
| \input texinfo   @c -*-texinfo-*-
| 
| @c texinfo 4.2
| @copying
| @end copying
| 
| @c texinfo 4.6
| @indent
| 
| @bye
+---

I'll verify it next days.

Maybe one could document somewhere which program versions a
contribution to GNU Emacs must support? It would help to write
compatible code.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Cc: id.brep@gmail.com, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:28:03 +0200
> 
> Maybe one could document somewhere which program versions a
> contribution to GNU Emacs must support? It would help to write
> compatible code.

I agree.

Regarding Texinfo, README says at least v4.2 is needed, but that's not
true any longer, since man/Makefile.in uses the --enable-encoding
switch to makeinfo, which was introduced in Texinfo 4.6.

So maybe you don't need to rewrite @indent after all (unless you want
to for your own reasons, unrelated to the Emacs distro).

Re: tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Michael Albinus]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Regarding Texinfo, README says at least v4.2 is needed, but that's not
> true any longer, since man/Makefile.in uses the --enable-encoding
> switch to makeinfo, which was introduced in Texinfo 4.6.
>
> So maybe you don't need to rewrite @indent after all (unless you want
> to for your own reasons, unrelated to the Emacs distro).

Thanks for the info. I will keep Tramp as it is wrt texinfo, because
it uses a sufficient check already during configuration.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: tramp.texi: Unknown command `indent'

[Glenn Morris]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> Since Tramp requires 4.6, obviously 4.6 is good enough.  I think you
> should rewrite that test to require 4.6 or later.

Ouch, yes. Done.