From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: What about "The Modernization of Emacs"? Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:21:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <811554110712200713m35204f96x136ebcc393984682@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198254255 2359 80.91.229.12 (21 Dec 2007 16:24:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Sean Ochoa" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 21 17:24:26 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J5kfh-00041W-U7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:24:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5kfO-0008OJ-4a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:24:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J5kdb-0005tH-11 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:22:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J5kdZ-0005qK-8H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:22:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5kdZ-0005q8-05 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:22:13 -0500 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J5kdY-0001Dg-VL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:22:13 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-229-233-247.inter.net.il [84.229.233.247]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id JRI53981 (AUTH halo1); Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:21:26 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <811554110712200713m35204f96x136ebcc393984682@mail.gmail.com> (wakiewakie@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17213 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:13:20 -0800 > From: "Sean Ochoa" > > What do the maintainers have to say about this article, "The Modernization > of Emacs" (http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization.html)? I think the author has an agenda (see his latest postings on gnu.emacs.help) that makes his articles suspect of propaganda and bias. I also think that Emacs maintainers do care about keeping Emacs in sync with modern UI and editing requirements, and recent Emacs development shows that very clearly. Rational suggestions for improvements in these areas are welcome, of course (please post them to emacs-devel@gnu.org, not here), but blindly accusing Emacs of being stagnant in a Web page is a very inefficient way of achieving the goal of talking Emacs maintainers into changing Emacs.