From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:09:05 +0300 Message-ID: References: <42D75F2C.3040303@student.lu.se> <42D77401.2010700@gnu.org> <42D7AEA9.2050304@student.lu.se> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121624751 19116 80.91.229.2 (17 Jul 2005 18:25:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 17 20:25:45 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DuDpf-0002Yw-Vg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:25:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DuDrZ-0005w4-HA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:27:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DuDqh-0005kx-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:26:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DuDpV-0005L1-O4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:25:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DuDpS-0005A5-66 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:25:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DuDiN-0001TR-UQ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:18:12 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-228-239-215.inter.net.il [84.228.239.215]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id EXO42404 (AUTH halo1); Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:09:04 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (rms@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41034 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:41034 > From: "Richard M. Stallman" > CC: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:36:19 -0400 > > I was talking about user-level features and the User's Manual, not the > Lisp Manual. > > The appendix that is suggested does not belong in the Emacs Manual. Why not, if it describes user-level features? > There already is a section on Windows usage in the Emacs Manual. No, there's an appendix called "MS-DOS" which describes mostly the DOS port and a small number of Windows related issues. > But > it is not the mission of the Emacs Manual to "describe all those > w32-SOMETHING functions and variables", any more than it is its mission > to describe all the functions and variables that are NOT specifically > for Windows. > > In nearly every aspect of Emacs, _completeness is not the goal_. This is not about completeness in any sense; perhaps the word "all" in "all those w32-SOMETHING functions" misled you to think that is what I was asking for. It isn't. There's a large number of issues specific to using Emacs on Windows that is not explained anywhere in the Emacs Manual. Some of the w32-SOMETHING functions and variables should be made known to Emacs users because they provide essential features without which some users would be simply lost. In addition, there are quite a few Windows-specific issues not related directly to any function or variable that should also be available in the manual.