From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 22 branch created. Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 06:11:21 +0300 Message-ID: References: <871wi9jw37.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <462E7B94.3000008@gnu.org> <462F0A07.50104@gnu.org> <864pn4an8j.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86zm4w97du.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070425195026.GA19472@printf.se> <20070427133832.22F374DD5F@rocksteady.printf.se> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178075488 18866 80.91.229.12 (2 May 2007 03:11:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 03:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: henrik.enberg@telia.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 02 05:11:26 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hj5FV-0003Aw-ON for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 05:11:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hj5Lr-00081g-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 May 2007 23:18:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hj5Ln-00081F-O8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 May 2007 23:17:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hj5Lm-000813-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 May 2007 23:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hj5Lm-000810-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 May 2007 23:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hj5FO-00015Z-DY; Tue, 01 May 2007 23:11:18 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-198-33.inter.net.il [83.130.198.33]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id GQN93070 (AUTH halo1); Wed, 2 May 2007 06:11:18 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 01 May 2007 20:13:28 -0400) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70465 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: eliz@gnu.org, henrik.enberg@telia.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 20:13:28 -0400 > > > The other approach also needs peculiar changes in lower-level features > > to work right. Various operations on the message buffer would have to > > operate on the file buffer as well. These include set-buffer-file-name, > > rename-buffer, as well as saving. > > Those other features can all be done at the UI-level, where they belong, not > at a low level. At the very least, it's all done in elisp, without any need > to fiddle with C code. > > I don't think that is true. Changes in set-buffer-file-name and rename-buffer > would have to be done at the C level. I think we have enough hook variables to do this in Lisp.