$ emacs filename with special German chars gives me strange transliteration

$ emacs filename with special German chars gives me strange transliteration

[Jens-Olaf Lindermann]

Hi NG (and sorry for my English),

reading through the tutorial, the manpages, the specific pages of Stallmans
manual I still have two minor problems with my GNU Emacs 21.4.1 (emacs-nox)
running on my Debian Etch.

Problem 1: When I will start emacs with a new file, whose name contains some
German chars like ä, ö or so, strange encoding-signs appear constantly in
the echo(command)-buffer below though I have no problems opening such a
filename with C-x C-f. Same happens if I will open something
like /Aufsätze. 

Problem 2: utf-8 will seems to be ignored sometimes. If I write an email
with mutt with chars like ß ö ä, then encoding is utf-8. Without such chars
it is always 7bit us-ascii.

There is clearly some difficulty with the encoding, but I do not know, what
else I should change. Here my (small) ~/.emacs

(custom-set-variables
  ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom -- don't edit or cut/paste it!
  ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
 '(current-language-environment "UTF-8")
 '(fill-column 72)
 '(case-fold-search t)
 '(keyboard-coding-system (quote utf-8))
 '(latin1-display t nil (latin1-disp)))
(custom-set-faces
  ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom -- don't edit or cut/paste it!
  ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
 )
(setq-default auto-fill-function 'do-auto-fill)
(prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)


Hope you can help me.
Jens

-- 
Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 stable

Re: $ emacs filename with special German chars gives me strange transliteration

[Matthias Pfeifer]

Hi,

In general i think that unicode is still work in progress in Emacs. The 
  Emacs homepage at http://www.gnu.org also says:


Future Versions

     * Emacs 23, the next major release, will have improved Unicode support.

So i think currently we can't expect working support.

Jens-Olaf Lindermann wrote:
 >
 > Problem 1: When I will start emacs with a new file, whose name 
contains some
 > German chars like ä, ö or so, strange encoding-signs appear constantly in
 > the echo(command)-buffer below though I have no problems opening such a
 > filename with C-x C-f. Same happens if I will open something
 > like /Aufsätze.
 >

That may depend on how your terminal/console works with the umlauts. 
There are also settings for readline (i think) that affect the 
translation between 7 and 8 bit characters (or so...).

Matthias, who can't contribute anymore but will attentative follow this 
thread...

Re: $ emacs filename with special German chars gives me strange transliteration

[Joel J. Adamson]

Jens-Olaf Lindermann <jenslindermann@yahoo.de> writes:

> Hi NG (and sorry for my English),
>
> reading through the tutorial, the manpages, the specific pages of Stallmans
> manual I still have two minor problems with my GNU Emacs 21.4.1 (emacs-nox)
> running on my Debian Etch.

I think both your problems could be solved by upgrading to emacs-cvs,
which includes full Unicode support.  I never have problems with those
characters, as rarely as I use them.  Is there some reason you need the
older version?

Joel

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Re: $ emacs filename with special German chars gives me strange transliteration

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: jadamson@partners.org (Joel J. Adamson)
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:44:57 -0400
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> I think both your problems could be solved by upgrading to emacs-cvs,
> which includes full Unicode support.

I think upgrading to Emacs 22.2, the latest official release, should
be good enough.

Re: $ emacs filename with special German chars gives me strange transliteration

[Jens-Olaf Lindermann]

Joel J. Adamson wrote:

> Is there some reason you need the
> older version?

Hi Joel and Matthias,

your answers have confirmed me that the 'switching' seems to come from the
old version I use. But I use Debian GNU/Linux stable and so some software
is 'a little bit' outdated. This does not bother me - when I understand
from where some problems arise...

Thanks for your help 

Jens


-- 
Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 stable

Re: $ emacs filename with special German chars gives me strange transliteration

[Joel J. Adamson]

Jens-Olaf Lindermann <jenslindermann@yahoo.de> writes:

> Joel J. Adamson wrote:
>
>> Is there some reason you need the
>> older version?
>
> Hi Joel and Matthias,
>
> your answers have confirmed me that the 'switching' seems to come from the
> old version I use. But I use Debian GNU/Linux stable and so some software
> is 'a little bit' outdated. This does not bother me - when I understand
> from where some problems arise...

I installed Debian a few weeks ago: Emacs 22 should be available from
the unstable repositories or from an Ubuntu repository.

Joel

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Joel J. Adamson
Biostatistician
Pediatric Psychopharmacology Research Unit
Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA  02114
(617) 643-1432
(303) 880-3109
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