From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problems building CVS Emacs on Windows XP using MinGW Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:01:55 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87vdxt8zkb.fsf@offby1.atm01.sea.blarg.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219474932 31079 80.91.229.12 (23 Aug 2008 07:02:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Francis Litterio Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 23 09:03:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KWn9N-0007CH-DR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:03:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49022 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWn8P-0001Ur-Pm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWn8L-0001Um-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWn8J-0001Ua-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51537 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWn8J-0001UX-5M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:8716) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KWn8I-0002db-Gm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il ([84.95.2.19]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KWn8H-0003gv-KK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:01:57 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.211.50]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K610007AKW2HFA0@i-mtaout7.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:02:26 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102854 Archived-At: > From: Francis Litterio > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:27:44 -0400 > Gcc: nnfolder:sent-usenet > > I'll still collect the info that Eli asked for else-thread Thanks. > but let me say that the machine on which I'm having the build > problems was setup by my company's IT department, and may have been > _upgraded_ from Windows 2000 instead of getting a fresh XP install. > For instance, Windows is installed in C:\WINNT instead of > C:\WINDOWS. > > As well, my company's draconian firewall prevents the machine from > getting automatic updates from Microsoft. Instead, a small subset of > updates are distributed from an internal WSUS server. > > So I suspect the problematic machine has a bizarre mixture of old and > new system software on it and is incompletely patched. I don't think the level of system up-to-dateness is an issue here, at least not in general. One of the machines where I frequently build CVS Emacs has updates completely turned off, and with the exception of a couple of updates that were important to me (e.g., the DST rules in time zones), it is the original SP2 as it was rolled out in 2003. In any case, whatever weird thing causes these failures, I'd like to understand how in the world it could cause Emacs fail in such a strange way. Some memory-related thing (e.g., insufficient memory or maybe even a hardware-related glitch) is about my only guess at this point. But I'm not good at guessing these sorts of things.