From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#1185: 23.0.60; Doc string of region-active-p considered unhelpful Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:42:28 +0200 Message-ID: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 1185@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224187820 10394 80.91.229.12 (16 Oct 2008 20:10:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:10:20 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 16 22:11:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KqZBh-0002Wn-1M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:11:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60467 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KqZAc-0001rk-5G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KqZAY-0001rV-W8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KqZAY-0001rJ-Fb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34537 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KqZAY-0001rG-Do for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:46102) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KqZAX-0004t0-Dk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:10:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9GK9x0q010030; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:10:00 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9GJo37n004634; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:50:03 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1185 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12241862103384 (code B ref -1); Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:50:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Oct 2008 19:43:30 +0000 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9GJhQor003378 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:43:27 -0700 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:48754 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KqYiK-0001Jn-3A for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:40:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KqYkm-00081y-UD for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]:41105) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KqYkm-00081o-Fy for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:43:24 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.24.3]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K8U00C8SK554S30@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:43:53 +0200 (IST) X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:10:02 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21561 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23230 Archived-At: Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: "C-h f region-active-p RET" produces the following documentation: Return t if Transient Mark mode is enabled and the mark is active. This is NOT the best function to use to test whether a command should operate on the region instead of the usual behavior -- for that, use `use-region-p'. This is not really helpful: it does not tell why would a Lisp program want to use this function. Are there any circumstances where this function is useful, or do we keep it for compatibility reasons? If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file d:/gnu/emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions. 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