From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why I can't use `info' in emacs? Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:04:35 +0200 Message-ID: References: <458268D7.6020203@163.com> <1166191335.058714.266970@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1166270698 22971 80.91.229.10 (16 Dec 2006 12:04:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 16 13:04:57 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GvYHg-0005E6-9L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:04:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvYHf-0003fZ-NM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:04:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GvYHU-0003fH-1b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:04:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GvYHS-0003f0-AN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:04:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvYHS-0003ex-5j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:04:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvYHR-00033D-0d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:04:41 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-160-237.inter.net.il [80.230.160.237]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id GOA79007 (AUTH halo1); Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:04:29 +0200 (IST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Hadron Quark on Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:27:23 +0100) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:39627 Archived-At: > From: Hadron Quark > Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:27:23 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Hadron Quark > >> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:25:55 +0100 > >> > >> Surely the man pages are superior in this instance for a programmer? > > > > How is the man page superior? > > > > Did you look at the excerpts which came up from the context. For a > programmer bringing up the API it is blatantly obvious, in this case, > which first stage info is more useful. I did look at the excerpts. Perhaps I don't qualify as a ``programmer'', although I'm coding away for more years than I can remember, but please believe me that it is not obvious to me what you meant, let alone ``blatantly obvious''. Please consider explaining that. Btw, in case it's unclear, the reason I asked my question is that I'm trying to figure out what needs to be improved to make the Info system better suited to programmers' needs, not because I wanted to tease you. FWIW, I'm using Info exclusively for many years, and I have yet to see a single case where man pages are better (except when an Info manual does not exist). It could be that the glibc manual needs some work to make it more useful, but it's hard to guess what to do without specific details. For example, what information did you want to find, and how the Info manual defeated that?