From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#641: format-time-string %Z does not work, starting with Emacs 22.2 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:22:10 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4897737C.90709@gmx.at> <001501c8f67e$7c63b300$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <008601c8f756$9bce0f00$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 641@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217994467 9686 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2008 03:47:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 03:47:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 06 05:48:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KQa0q-0004VE-7X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:48:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60321 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQZzv-0006pd-0r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQZzo-0006nT-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:47:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQZzn-0006m5-Ji for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:47:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36722 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQZzn-0006lu-EB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:47:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:44075) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KQZzm-00027s-Tj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:47:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m763lM3j018979; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:47:23 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m763U3MO013378; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:30:03 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , don@donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 641 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121799302511796 (code B ref -1); Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Aug 2008 03:23:45 +0000 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m763NeLS011790 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:23:41 -0700 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQZci-0004VP-3C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:23:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQZch-0004Tq-6u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:23:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43820 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQZch-0004Tf-2y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:23:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il ([84.95.2.16]:52126) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KQZcg-0007mn-DW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:23:38 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.7.152]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K5500766TDCSPH0@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:22:25 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <008601c8f756$9bce0f00$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:47:32 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19059 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:54:32 -0700 > > You intentionally broke existing code Code that didn't expect "" from %Z was already broken. > and reduced the utility of the function Please complain to Microsoft: if they modify `tzname' to be compliant, the previous code can be reinstated. > Not only does it break my existing code, but I don't see any way now to get a > timezone name (on Windows) even by changing the code. Can you tell me how to do > that? I'd use %z. > > "Pacific Daylight Time" is not a Posix- or RFC-822 compliant timezone > > specification. > > So? What requires `format-time-string' to use only Posix- or RFC-822 specs? I explained that in my message. > AFAICT, the functionality and usefulness has been reduced. I understood your opinion the first time, no need to repeat it over and over again. > If you absolutely need a Posix-compliant spec for some use (e.g. mail), why > don't you add a new one - %P %Z is already a Posix format. > Are you really convinced this is TRT? Yes.