ERC or TNT

ERC or TNT

[op132650c]

Hi everyone,

What is the difference between an IRC and an Instant Messaging? They don't do
the same thing?

I can't configure "ERC - Emacs IRC Chat" or "AOL TNT AIM for emacs" to work with
the server messenger.hotmail.com:1863. How can i solve this problem?

The messengers server that AOL, Google, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc, uses the same
communication protocol? Or each referred messengers is incompatible with the
others?


Thanks,
Pedro

Re: ERC or TNT

[Bastien]

op132650c@mail.telepac.pt writes:

> The messengers server that AOL, Google, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc, uses
> the same communication protocol? Or each referred messengers is
> incompatible with the others?

I think you should have a look at this:
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki?BitlBee

-- 
Bastien

Re: ERC or TNT

[Marc Tfardy]

op132650c@mail.telepac.pt schrieb:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> What is the difference between an IRC and an Instant Messaging? They don't do
> the same thing?
> 
> I can't configure "ERC - Emacs IRC Chat" or "AOL TNT AIM for emacs" to work with
> the server messenger.hotmail.com:1863. How can i solve this problem?
> 
> The messengers server that AOL, Google, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc, uses the same
> communication protocol? Or each referred messengers is incompatible with the
> others?

I think, you jumble two different things. ERC is an IRC client.
It has nothing to do with IM. For ERC you need an IRC server,
not an "messenger server".

regards

Marc

Re: ERC or TNT

[Pascal Bourguignon]

Marc Tfardy <m-t-o___CUT_IT___@web.de> writes:

> op132650c@mail.telepac.pt schrieb:
>> Hi everyone,
>> What is the difference between an IRC and an Instant Messaging? They
>> don't do
>> the same thing?
>> I can't configure "ERC - Emacs IRC Chat" or "AOL TNT AIM for emacs"
>> to work with
>> the server messenger.hotmail.com:1863. How can i solve this problem?
>> The messengers server that AOL, Google, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc, uses
>> the same
>> communication protocol? Or each referred messengers is incompatible with the
>> others?
>
> I think, you jumble two different things. ERC is an IRC client.
> It has nothing to do with IM. For ERC you need an IRC server,
> not an "messenger server".

However, with erc, you can connect to an IRC/AOL/MSN gateway 
such as im.bitlbee.org


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Re: ERC or TNT

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Re: ERC or TNT

[Mathias Dahl]

op132650c@mail.telepac.pt writes:

> I can't configure "ERC - Emacs IRC Chat" or "AOL TNT AIM for emacs" to work with
> the server messenger.hotmail.com:1863. How can i solve this problem?

My suggestion is to try out jabber.el. Find a jabber server that has
the "transports" to the IM systems you want to communicate with and
you're all set:

http://emacs-jabber.sourceforge.net/

Re: ERC or TNT

[Anselm Helbig]

At Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:38:45 +0000,
op132650c@mail.telepac.pt wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> What is the difference between an IRC and an Instant Messaging? They don't do
> the same thing?
> 
> I can't configure "ERC - Emacs IRC Chat" or "AOL TNT AIM for emacs" to work with
> the server messenger.hotmail.com:1863. How can i solve this problem?
> 
> The messengers server that AOL, Google, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc, uses the same
> communication protocol? Or each referred messengers is incompatible with the
> others?

AOL and ICQ use oscar, Google is said to use the jabber protocol, MSN
messenger and Yahoo use their own protocols. IRC is actually a beast
of its own, and predates all of these. 

If more than one of these networks is of importance to you,
and you really want to have your chat client inside emacs, then you
really should consider the combination of bitlbee + some emacs irc
client (like erc, rcirc or circe). These IM-protocols are under
constant change, and there are not so many open source projects that
keep track of that. IRC on the other hand is an internet standard, so
any old IRC-client will connect you to bitlbee.

If you just want a console multi-protocol im-client, maybe CenterICQ
suits your needs. 

I just tried TNT, and it didn't connect me, either. I didn't take the
time to debug that thoroughly. If you're on XEmacs, maybe eICQ works
for you (ICQ uses the same protocol as AIM), but bitlbee would be in
any case the most general solution.

regards, 

Anselm