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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@member.fsf.org>
Subject: Re: C file recoginzed as image file
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:07:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uslekfiww.fsf@member.fsf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1H44QT-0007FM-MP@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:01:13 -0500")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> In nearly all cases, the result of displaying an image file is an
> image on your screen.

True.

> Your conclusion is based on two assumptions: that (1) there is a bug
> in a library and (2) the image file has a virus specifically designed
> to take advantage of this bug and cause trouble in Emacs.

True.

> Assumption 1 may be true occasionally, but it will be false nearly
> all the time.

"occasionally" here does not refer to the number of images viewed, but
the number of libraries used. There are only a few of those (maybe
10?). So if one of them has a bug, that's 10%.

> Assumption 2 is not impossible, but we don't know that anyone will
> actually do it.

Yes, we do; there are examples of real viruses that do exactly that.

Hmm. Not including the "cause trouble in Emacs" part; just causing
trouble on the computer is the intent of the virus. Emacs is just the
user interface to the image library in this case.

The point people have been making is that these real viruses use a
file extension that is _not_ an image file extension, in an attempt to
fool the reader into getting infected.

You are correct that using the file extension alone to determine
whether the file is an image is not fool-proof.

But a heuristic that says:

"if the file extension does not match the contents, it is more likely
that this is a virus attack"

is useful. That is what is being proposed here.

-- 
-- Stephe

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-09 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-05 14:27 C file recoginzed as image file Charles Rendleman
2007-01-05 14:46 ` Chris Moore
2007-01-05 14:52   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-05 15:02   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-05 19:02     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-05 22:23       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-05 22:44         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-05 22:47           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-05 23:01           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-05 23:15             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-06 18:07             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06 18:49               ` Chris Moore
2007-01-06  0:12         ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-06 18:07           ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07 19:20           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-08  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06  2:55       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06 10:52         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-06  3:20       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-06 10:58         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-07 16:50           ` Mathias Dahl
2007-01-07  3:46         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07  5:36           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08  5:32             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-08 15:09               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 15:25                 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-08 17:32                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-08 19:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-09 11:12                       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2007-01-09 11:44                         ` Chong Yidong
2007-01-09 11:57                           ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2007-01-09 12:40                           ` David Kastrup
2007-01-09 13:03                             ` martin rudalics
2007-01-09 12:57                           ` Chong Yidong
2007-01-09 16:01                           ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-09 13:11                         ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-15  6:06                           ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-09 21:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-09 22:20                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-01-08 19:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-08 22:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 23:26                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09  4:08                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09  9:48                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09 11:06                             ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-09 12:01                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09 12:16                                 ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-09 12:23                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10  1:04                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-10  9:05                                     ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-10  9:38                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10 23:06                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 21:54                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-09 21:55                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09 23:56                                     ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10  0:21                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10 15:11                                         ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10 15:17                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09 21:08                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 21:40                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-08 17:09                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-01-08 20:26                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-08 20:39                   ` David Kastrup
2007-01-08 20:48                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-08 20:52                       ` David Kastrup
2007-01-08 21:03                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09  7:57                           ` David Kastrup
2007-01-09  9:08                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09 18:50                               ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 19:47                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09 22:38                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-09 23:19                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-10  1:12                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-10  1:37                                       ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-08 22:42                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-08 23:27                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 23:39                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09  2:07                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 23:32                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 23:43                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09  0:11                       ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-09  0:19                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09 13:16                   ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-09 17:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 19:59                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10  1:04                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07  9:04           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-08  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-08 13:34               ` Chris Moore
2007-01-08 18:20                 ` David Kastrup
2007-01-08 21:02                   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-08 21:14                   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09  0:01                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09  1:08                   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 17:57                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 23:24                       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 23:39                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10  1:00                           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10  1:05                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09  4:40                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-01-09 21:07                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-10  4:23                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-01-10 23:05                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 13:07                   ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2007-01-09 13:25                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09 13:57                       ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-01-09 23:37                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-15  6:10                         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-09 22:58                       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 23:31                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-10  1:31                       ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-08  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07 10:05           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-06  2:55     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06  3:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-06 12:48       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-07  3:47         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07  9:21           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-07  9:58             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-08  5:32             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-08 14:05               ` Reiner Steib
2007-01-08 14:16                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-01-08 18:12                   ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-09  0:01                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-14  2:52                   ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-14 18:55                     ` Sascha Wilde
2007-01-15 14:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-15 15:14                         ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-19 16:14                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-19 16:33                             ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-19 17:10                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-20  2:10                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-20 23:38                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-21 22:27                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-21 22:36                                       ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-21 22:47                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-22  9:04                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-14 23:23                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-15  1:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-15  5:59                         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-15 23:27                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07 11:49           ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-07 16:21             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06  2:55   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06 12:42     ` Chris Moore
2007-01-07  3:47       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07  9:28         ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-08  5:32           ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06  2:55 ` Richard Stallman

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