From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: remember(-diary).el Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:22:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4743DD30.4010504@gmx.at> <4743EFE7.7080907@gmx.at> <8763zki775.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> <87lk8fh8wu.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> <66bq9bmu3b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877ijzfko3.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> <878x4cegfg.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196655752 6997 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2007 04:22:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 04:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Olson Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 05:22:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iz2pK-0004SL-Rj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:22:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz2p4-0005io-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:22:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz2p1-0005ih-Ma for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:22:19 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz2p0-0005iA-9k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:22:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz2p0-0005i7-4S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:22:18 -0500 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iz2ov-0005et-Vo; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:22:14 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-204-252.inter.net.il [80.230.204.252]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id ILS47477 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 06:19:37 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <878x4cegfg.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> (message from Michael Olson on Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:23 -0500) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84532 Archived-At: > From: Michael Olson > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:23 -0500 > > An additional use case for this code is to detect whether the underlying > file system supports file modification times. That is unrelated to the numeric tails, even if it were a problem (see below). > I'm not entirely certain > of this, but I think that at least some variants of FAT, perhaps all, do > not support them. One of the programs I maintain (not part of Emacs > yet) relies on file modification times in order to accurately determine > which files need to have their contents updated after a corresponding > change to a "source" file. I'm not aware of any filesystem that does not support file modification time. Even plain DOS supports them, and Windows 9x as well, of course. Maybe you mean creation and access times? Those are supported by Windows 9x VFAT filesystem, though (but not by DOS).