From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:25:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20080104164454.0A4BD830697@snark.thyrsus.com> <20080104232514.GB2735@muc.de> <87r6gxoyjv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4pds0zz4.fsf@telefonica.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199575568 26877 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2008 23:26:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 00:26:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBIPM-0005K8-5T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:26:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBIOw-0002UN-6C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBIOr-0002UE-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:25:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBIOk-0002R2-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:25:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBIOk-0002Qw-NJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBIOi-00066X-Md for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-71-78.inter.net.il [80.230.71.78]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id ITL00019 (AUTH halo1); Sun, 6 Jan 2008 01:23:04 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <4pds0zz4.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= on Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:38:55 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86258 Archived-At: > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= > Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:38:55 +0100 > > > Yes, I know. But -- and please forgive me for being so blunt -- I > > have enough grey hair to remember a few instances in the past where > > people with good intentions said things like that. Sadly, intentions > > are all we are left with to this day. > > > > I want to see some action, in addition to good intentions and more > > talking. > > You have experience dealing with ESR. Don't you trust him? This isn't about trust. I _really_ want Emacs to move forward faster, and I'm tired of long arguments that change nothing except the size of email archives, that's all. > >> The advantages of a living database over a static text file are too > >> large to enumerate. > > > > But the advantage of the flat text file is that it exists. > > Seriously, I don't understand your attitude. See above: as long as all we do is talk, a flat text file is better than just talk.