From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: what happened to fringe customization? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:21:21 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5lel4q8rjb.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048947956 18258 80.91.224.249 (29 Mar 2003 14:25:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 29 15:25:55 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18zHHG-0004ji-00 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 15:25:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zHH1-0005Tw-06 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:25:31 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: a9d32d0473bdc2e5ae20b7b98720fbe5 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net Original-X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1048947681 a9d32d0473bdc2e5ae20b7b98720fbe5 (Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:21:21 GMT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:21:21 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:111480 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:7980 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:7980 >>> about half of my .emacs file is now dedicated to the ruthless >>> eradication of all the unicode and encoding crap :-]. > >Since you care enough to tell us about it, why not tell us what >problems this was trying to address ? Because all the work I do is with good old stick in the mud 7-bit ascii files. If random bits of unicode have crept into my files I want to know about it, and I will if I see lots of octal escapes on the screen (but I won't if emacs helpfully renders the characters correctly for some definition of correct :-). For that matter all the files I work with are Unix format, so if DOS line endings have crept in, I want to know about that as well by seeing the $#@! ^M characters instead of having them go invisible on me. Despite my best attempts to eradicate all this stuff I still haven't yet figured out how to convince gnus to stop asking me what encoding to use when I try to forward some random unicode spam messages. Somehow there has to be a way to tell it: "Look you - you know that stream of bytes you got from the POP server - that's the data I want to forward - why should you care what the encoding is? (You didn't when you sucked it off the server)". -- >>==>> The *Best* political site >>==+ email: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net icbm: Delray Beach, FL | Free Software and Politics <<==+