From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: soft wrapping and line numbers Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 16:38:08 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5lllxqgudo.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5ld6j1jb5l.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052059292 16064 80.91.224.249 (4 May 2003 14:41:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 04 16:41:31 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CKgF-0004Aw-00 for ; Sun, 04 May 2003 16:41:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19CKfW-0001SY-04 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 May 2003 10:40:46 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!out.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!propagator2-SanJose!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.r-kom.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-145-254-191-111.arcor-ip.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-145-254-191-111.arcor-ip.net (145.254.191.111) Original-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1052059109 15708029 145.254.191.111 (16 [87814]) X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6;Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XyK5BEj4KSDmUpq6545HNUfdCrQ= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112757 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9252 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9252 "Stefan Monnier" writes: [...] > Emacs is still pretty strongly aimed at "editing fixed-width 80 column > text". I suspect most Emacs hackers still use it mostly in that > kind of context and are hence not strongly interested in improving it > in the direction you'd like it to go. > > Another problem is that soft-wrapping as in Notepad tends to be of very > limited use when you want indented paragraphs or quoted paragraphs, > and so you quickly end up needing something more like Word where > there is a notion of page-width, margin and where the document is not > purely text but has various formatting info embedded in it. [...] I often wish Emacs would support some kind of CSS- or XSL-style area model. Would it be very hard to implement with the current display engine? Is it possible at all. Oliver -- 15 Floréal an 211 de la Révolution Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!