From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: emacs manual: codepage-setup vs language environ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:51:34 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87br4ewpxk.fsf@zip.com.au> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1123127988 27329 80.91.229.2 (4 Aug 2005 03:59:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 03:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 05:59:36 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0Wsl-0001Yb-GW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 05:58:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0WvX-0000gu-Kh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:01:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E0Wv5-0000Th-48 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E0Wuy-0000QA-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0Wux-0000NE-Jg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:01:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E0WyJ-0000Fu-Hz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:04:43 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-250-124.inter.net.il [83.130.250.124]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id CAO55950 (AUTH halo1); Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:51:33 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: Kevin Ryde In-reply-to: <87br4ewpxk.fsf@zip.com.au> (message from Kevin Ryde on Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:39:35 +1000) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:12647 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:12647 > From: Kevin Ryde > Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:39:35 +1000 > > Since the codepage number also indicates which script you are > using, Emacs automatically runs `set-language-environment' to > select the language environment for that script (*note > Language Environments::). > > When I first read that I thought it applied to both the M-x > dos-codepage-setup and M-x codepage-setup commands shown at the start > of that section, whereas if I'm not mistaken it's only the former. Actually, it applies to the Emacs startup on MS-DOS. > I think that node could be clearer if the description of how codepages > are handled with emacs coding systems (and how you need M-x > codepage-setup) was separated from the bits about what happens in > emacs actually running on DOS. The node you quoted is from an appendix that describes the MS-DOS port of Emacs, which uses codepage.el. On other systems, Emacs uses a different implementation of code pages, the one from code-pages.el. That package is simply not documented; if we want to document the code page facilities on systems other than MS-DOS, that information should be added somewhere else in the manual, not in the DOS appendix, IMHO.