From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, dreitter@inf.ed.ac.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: saveplace: don't ask for coding system
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:48:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ur6i3zepx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fxykjb6y.fsf@red-bean.com> (message from Karl Fogel on Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:59:33 -0800)
> Cc: dreitter@inf.ed.ac.uk, lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:59:33 -0800
>
> It would be more helpful if, instead of saying what encoding *not* to
> use, you (or someone) would say what encoding *to* use
I thought that was obvious: emacs-mule.
> and why :-).
I thought that was obvious: because it supports all the characters
Emacs can handle.
> In the thread, you objected to utf-8 because Emacs-mule supports some
> characters that utf-8 doesn't (I hadn't known that, but I'll take your
> word for it).
In Emacs 22, only mule-unicode-* characters can be encoded with
UTF-8. We do a lot of juggling behind the scenes to pretend that
characters from other charsets are somehow equivalent to (or mapped
into) Unicode codepoints, but that's camouflage. Cyrillic ISO-8859-5
characters and Cyrillic mule-unicode-* characters are still different
characters, for example.
> However, Juanma pointed out that utf-8 was used for the
> ido-history file, and that the reason this was okay was that the data
> is just filenames (as with saveplace); he pointed to a thread on this.
That discussion was about Emacs 23, which will be Unicode based and
where UTF-8 will be able to support all characters (or so I think).
EMACS_22_BASE is a stable branch, so we are not supposed to install
there changes that _might_ work, only changes we know _for_sure_ they
_will_ work.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-03 20:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-28 14:46 saveplace: don't ask for coding system David Reitter
2007-11-28 21:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-29 0:25 ` David Reitter
2007-12-03 1:04 ` General variable for verbosity level. (was: saveplace: don't ask for coding system) Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 20:22 ` David Reitter
2007-12-03 21:44 ` General variable for verbosity level Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 22:34 ` Reiner Steib
2007-11-29 9:04 ` saveplace: don't ask for coding system Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-29 21:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-30 9:17 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-29 9:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-02 16:51 ` David Reitter
2007-12-02 21:26 ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-02 21:31 ` David Reitter
2007-12-02 23:23 ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 4:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 10:59 ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 11:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-03 21:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-03 20:48 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-12-03 21:32 ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-04 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04 6:17 ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-04 20:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04 16:40 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 21:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-05 4:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-05 8:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-05 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-05 20:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-06 4:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-06 12:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 22:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 16:55 ` Richard Stallman
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