From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questions about isearch Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:02:38 +0100 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: References: <83lh9lx6oi.fsf@gnu.org> <87egfdant7.fsf@gmx.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448481721 13631 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2015 20:02:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:02:01 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 21:01:50 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a1gGC-0000s1-4Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:01:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47448 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1gGD-0004Nf-Vc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:01:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40131) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1gGA-0004N3-37 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:01:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1gG5-00027u-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:01:46 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1gG5-00027l-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:01:41 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a1gFx-0000Qm-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:01:33 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.208.248.210.getinternet.no ([84.208.248.210]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:01:33 +0100 Original-Received: from sb by cm-84.208.248.210.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:01:33 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 48 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.208.248.210.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/mjxdsSze+R/vI2ASyj5CKAYSmM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195248 Archived-At: >>>>> Rasmus : > Hi, > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> These questions came out of review and extensive updates of the search >> and replace sections of the Emacs manual: >> >> 1. Character folding doesn't catch ligatures, such as æ (should it match >> the two characters "ae")? > In Danish I would not consider this a ligature, but a separate letter. It > can be written as ae, however. Hm... could this happen other than when transcribing a Danish name containing "æ" to an alphabet without Danish letters...? > Thus, it would probably be nice to match it via ’ae’. Speaking for the Norwegians: probably not! > But where to stop? How about ’å’ (matched by ’a’)? Absolutely not! > Should it be captured by "aa"? Actually perhaps yes, but only for names, and only if the locale is Norwegian (and presumably also Danish). Actually, considering the limitations, probably not. > Ø by ’oe’? No. For Norwegian the situation would be similar to "ae", and it would be for a case that is increasingly going away: having to transcribe a name in USASCII only. But it would make sense to make it search for "ö", because it rarely but _may_ be used instead of "ø" in Norwegian, and there are cases where Norwegian words differ only on "ø" vs. "ö" (funnily enough less so on "æ" vs. "ä"... an informal observation by me is that many words spelled with "ä" in Swedish are spelled with "e" in Norwegian (and pronounced with an "æ" sound)). > There’s also ’œ’... Which is French for (more or less) the same sound as "ø"