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From: Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Questions about isearch
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:02:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <upzctwo9alup.fsf@dod.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87egfdant7.fsf@gmx.us

>>>>> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>:

> Hi,
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> These questions came out of review and extensive updates of the search
>> and replace sections of the Emacs manual:
>> 
>> 1. Character folding doesn't catch ligatures, such as æ (should it match
>> the two characters "ae")?

> In Danish I would not consider this a ligature, but a separate letter.  It
> can be written as ae, however.

Hm... could this happen other than when transcribing a Danish name
containing "æ" to an alphabet without Danish letters...?

> Thus, it would probably be nice to match it via ’ae’.

Speaking for the Norwegians: probably not!

> But where to stop?  How about ’å’ (matched by ’a’)?

Absolutely not!

> Should it be captured by "aa"?

Actually perhaps yes, but only for names, and only if the locale is
Norwegian (and presumably also Danish).

Actually, considering the limitations, probably not.

> Ø by ’oe’?

No.  For Norwegian the situation would be similar to "ae", and it would
be for a case that is increasingly going away: having to transcribe a
name in USASCII only.

But it would make sense to make it search for "ö", because it rarely but
_may_ be used instead of "ø" in Norwegian, and there are cases where
Norwegian words differ only on "ø" vs. "ö" (funnily enough less so on
"æ" vs. "ä"... an informal observation by me is that many words spelled
with "ä" in Swedish are spelled with "e" in Norwegian (and pronounced
with an "æ" sound)).

> There’s also ’œ’...

Which is French for (more or less) the same sound as "ø"




  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-25 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-25 18:41 Questions about isearch Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 19:20 ` Rasmus
2015-11-25 20:02   ` Steinar Bang [this message]
2015-11-26 14:46     ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-26 16:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 20:46         ` Per Starbäck
2015-11-26 21:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 21:35             ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-27  7:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27  6:38             ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-27  8:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 16:21               ` raman
2015-11-26 23:18           ` Rasmus
2015-11-27  7:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27  6:37         ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-27  8:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 20:10   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 20:41     ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-25 20:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 20:14 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 20:30   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-25 20:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 21:58       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 23:04         ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-26  3:40           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 19:50             ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-27 20:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 23:57                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28  1:36                 ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-28  9:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 13:28         ` Steinar Bang
2015-11-25 20:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 21:49     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-26  3:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 12:03     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-27 14:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 16:50         ` Per Starbäck
2015-11-27 18:10           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-27 18:42             ` Per Starbäck
2015-11-27 21:33           ` raman
2016-02-28  0:27           ` Mathias Dahl
2016-02-28 15:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-28 17:52               ` Mathias Dahl
2016-02-28 18:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-29 13:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-29 16:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-01 16:52                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-27 16:55         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-27 17:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 21:18           ` Stephen Berman
2015-11-28  0:04             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28  7:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 16:14               ` Stephen Berman
2015-11-28  5:36             ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-28  8:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28  8:40               ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-28  9:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 10:23                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 11:14                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 14:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 15:41                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 16:29                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 17:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 17:44                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 18:31                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 18:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 20:00                                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 20:08                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 20:47                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 16:48                     ` character folding future [was: Questions about isearch] Drew Adams
2015-11-28 18:34                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-01 11:34                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-01 15:48                         ` Drew Adams
2015-12-03 23:54                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29  6:03                     ` Questions about isearch Richard Stallman
2015-11-29 15:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-29  9:39                     ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-29 15:52                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30  9:39                         ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-30 15:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 16:05                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-11-26 16:08   ` Rasmus
2015-11-25 23:15 ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-26 14:45 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-27  0:43 ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-27  8:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 23:24     ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-28  8:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27  8:02 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-27  8:57   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 10:03     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-27 10:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 10:47         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29  9:08       ` Andreas Röhler

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