From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:22:21 +0100 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87iovo4caz.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <878uvmoypl.fsf@dod.no> <871u1by9xz.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387282959 23046 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2013 12:22:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:22:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 17 13:22:44 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vstff-0001SI-3C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:22:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32801 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vstfe-0000tA-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:22:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VstfW-0000sz-5j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:22:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VstfQ-0003dg-Fl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:22:34 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38858) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VstfQ-0003dU-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:22:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VstfO-0001Dt-W7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:22:26 +0100 Original-Received: from 146.2.243.105 ([146.2.243.105]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:22:26 +0100 Original-Received: from sb by 146.2.243.105 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:22:26 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.2.243.105 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+Oca0aIarxXCThkfZQ5Bpjbh+CM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166548 Archived-At: >>>>> Achim Gratz : > To me it seems the discussion about Org has somehow drifted from the > original request in this thread. Org has been mentioned as a format > that Emacs already understands and can produce different output formats > from. It is not, in its current form, intended to do WYSIWYG editing > even though it might arguably form the basis for such a mode. Even > then, some of the things that people often do with WYSIWYG are even > difficult to map to Org's syntax, which is geared towards making the > common things easy without introducing a lot of clutter. Agreed. What prompted me to mention org mode, is that org mode is the way I quickly create documents like RMS' sample pdf file. I whip up a small .org file, fill it with content, and export it to the desired format, and that's that. So I overlooked the WYSWIG bit of the request since it's not something I need, or even want, for the "small, nicely formatted PDFs, quickly created" use case.