From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16784: 24.3; Problems opening NNTP connection: failing starttls because of a non-verified certificate Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:33:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <86bny5r5lj.fsf@dod.no> <87ob24ctq3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874n2t3ozq.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395398164 4750 80.91.229.3 (21 Mar 2014 10:36:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16784@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 21 11:36:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WQwo3-0000GB-OY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:36:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51915 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQwo3-00009M-CT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:36:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59847) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQwn6-0007bV-0b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:35:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQwn1-000719-2M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQwn0-00070k-Vz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WQwn0-0002hi-Cb; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:35:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Steinar Bang Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16784 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16784-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16784.139539806310313 (code B ref 16784); Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2014 10:34:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43002 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WQwmJ-0002g1-4n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:34:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rainey.bang.priv.no ([212.110.185.190]:35412) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WQwmE-0002fe-0l for 16784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:34:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:58:02 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 195.204.41.10 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: too long (recipient list exceeded maximum allowed size of 8 bytes) X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: sb@dod.no X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:57:07 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on rainey.bang.priv.no) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87097 Archived-At: >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen : > Ted Zlatanov writes: SB> I would like one of the following solutions: SB> 1. The possibility to switch off the attempted upgrade to STARTTLS for SB> NNTP connections >> I think Lars has to give an opinion here. > I think we should always do encryption, even though we can't do validation. The reason I asked for this, is that if an ecryption I didn't ask for causes the connection to fail, I would like to be able to turn it off and have my unsafe connection. I would rather have an unsafe conncetion than no connection (which is what I seem to have right now on Windows).