From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:39:58 +0100 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87iovo4caz.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <878uvmoypl.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387280419 25812 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2013 11:40:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:40:19 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 17 12:40:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vst0i-0007Zb-Gi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60894 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vst0h-00029d-NU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 06:40:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vst0Z-000248-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 06:40:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vst0T-0008LH-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 06:40:15 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vst0T-0008Kp-7D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 06:40:09 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vst0R-0007Kp-Ne for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:07 +0100 Original-Received: from 146.2.243.105 ([146.2.243.105]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:07 +0100 Original-Received: from sb by 146.2.243.105 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:07 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.2.243.105 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lT/LTZgAXYbBS2AXSDWPJSbynk0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166545 Archived-At: >>>>> Richard Stallman : > But showing my document as an outline by default is a bug. It's not a bug for org-mode. It's the way it's supposed to be. But when you opened it, you would see a couple of itemized lists and also some bold face, in what's actually the org-mode markup. > It should appear as text with a title. Tnat's how OpenOffice > shows it. I think the reason so many people have been pushing org-mode, is that they themselves use org-mode for the use case you have listed: create a text document, formatted like an OpenOffice writer document would have formatted it (that's what I would have used. Quickly outlined a document and then exported it to the desired format). And the people pushing org-mode in this thread don't care about having a WYSWIG presentation of the result document when editing the document. I know I don't care, the expected result is in my head as I type, and the actual result rarely surprise me. Probably since the org-mode markup is so simple.