From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Differences between Elisp and Lisp Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:06:00 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051643889 32618 80.91.224.249 (29 Apr 2003 19:18:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 29 21:18:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Aac7-0008TO-00 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:18:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Aaa1-0005GJ-01 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:15:53 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.r-kom.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-145-254-193-012.arcor-ip.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 32 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-145-254-193-012.arcor-ip.net (145.254.193.12) Original-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1051643484 12001564 145.254.193.12 (16 [87814]) X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6;Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mk/Q4VJU4eGOrfYMWwiS+j2Hz9E= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112536 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9033 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9033 Phillip Lord writes: [...] > For me the issue is more simple I think. I would Emacs to be using a > lisp which was not specific to emacs, as it would probably stop so > much wheel reinvention. There is too much code in emacs, that was > written for emacs, in my own estimation. > > I'd just be happy to have a more powerful lisp that's all. Should it > be CL or scheme? From my perspective, I couldn't care that much for a > simple reason. I learnt lisp because I use emacs, rather than the > other way around. I only known elisp in detail. Which ever one emacs > goes with, will be the one that I learn! [...] Amen. For me Elisp was the first programming language I started to use in earnest and it is still my mother tongue. If I had to choose between CL and Scheme, I'd prefer CL (for various reasons; the fact that I find it easier to read CL code due to it's similarity to Elisp not being the last one). But I won't complain if it's Scheme. After all Emacs will provide the libraries and the environment; so it is “Elisp-as-a-subset-of-CL vs. Escheme” rather than “CL vs. Scheme”. Oliver -- 10 Floréal an 211 de la Révolution Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!