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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Meanness
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:49:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uprp04ml5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <857ib83bdb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:37:20 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> if [my parents or spouse] choose to use a system for which I am not
> willing or able to do support.  It just means that they are on their own
> with it, nothing more, nothing less.

Shouldn't you argue with them and condemn them as being unethical and
immoral?

If not, why won't you leave me and Juanma ``on our own''?

> And frankly, my abilities for support on a machine where I can't use ssh
> for remote access would be quite limited, anyway.

You can install ssh on Windows.  And Windows has its built-in ways of
remote access out of the box.  Though I can hardly believe that this
piece of technical knowledge will change your views, so I wonder why
you raise this issue at all.

> So if your goal is to improve Emacs on Windows

I said the goal is improving Emacs.  All the rest is your invention.

> > Let's not put that goal in jeopardy by emphasizing minor (yes, minor!)
> > differences between us on how soon and how completely should each
> > private citizen switch to using Free Software and Free Software alone.
> 
> That never was the issue.  The issue is more like what we have to gain
> by having more and more software developers distracted by spending much
> of their time working on supporting non-free platforms or dealing with
> the consequences of such support.

Please do yourself a favor and stop caring about how others spend
their time.  You have little if any control of that; in my experience
it's better to be grateful for whatever time they find to contribute
to goals that I consider worthy.

And while at that, how about spending all the effort and time taken by
responding to each and every article in this discussion on hacking
Emacs?




  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-26 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-26  8:10 Meanness Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-26 11:49 ` Meanness Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-26 11:59   ` Meanness Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-26 12:04     ` Meanness Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-26 15:16   ` Meanness Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 15:27     ` Meanness Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-26 15:51       ` Meanness David Kastrup
2008-07-26 16:11         ` Meanness Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-26 16:30           ` Meanness David Kastrup
2008-07-26 16:40             ` Meanness Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 16:52             ` Meanness Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-26 16:59         ` Meanness Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 17:49         ` Meanness Thomas Lord
2008-07-26 17:21           ` Meanness David Kastrup
2008-07-26 17:36             ` Meanness Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 18:10               ` Meanness David Kastrup
2008-08-30  2:10             ` Meanness Daniel Colascione
2008-07-26 15:37     ` Meanness David Kastrup
2008-07-26 16:49       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-07-26 16:00     ` Meanness Óscar Fuentes
2008-07-26 16:19       ` Meanness David Kastrup
2008-07-26 16:56         ` Meanness Óscar Fuentes
2008-07-27 14:49       ` Meanness Richard M Stallman
2008-07-26 16:16     ` Meanness Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-26 16:20       ` Meanness Chong Yidong
2008-07-26 16:37         ` Meanness David Kastrup
2008-07-26 16:38       ` Meanness Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 17:01         ` Meanness David Kastrup
2008-07-26 17:22           ` Meanness Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-27 14:49       ` Meanness Richard M Stallman
2008-07-27 14:49     ` Meanness Richard M Stallman
2008-07-26 18:08 ` Meanness Stefan Monnier

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