From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:27:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37548"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Jean Louis , ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 25 10:29:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l3yBK-0009fW-6Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:29:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40030 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3yBJ-0002Iz-8c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 04:29:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3yAU-0001sC-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 04:28:19 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:57024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3yAQ-0002si-Gf; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 04:28:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 25 Jan 2021 00:53:53 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=140.211.166.183; envelope-from=ulm@gentoo.org; helo=smtp.gentoo.org X-Spam_score_int: -68 X-Spam_score: -6.9 X-Spam_bar: ------ X-Spam_report: (-6.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263378 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021, Richard Stallman wrote: >> Maybe Org mode shall switch from using OASIS infested non-free >> specification to Libreoffice. I could not find those files in >> Libreoffice folders. But they could be somewhere hidden. > This is an interesting issue. If you could verify that LibreOffice > does not contain those nonfree schemas, that would be very good news! I fear we are out of luck there. Libreoffice documentation at https://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Common/XML_File_Formats#Definition_of_the_XML_formats says "The schema for the OpenDocument formats can be found on the www.oasis-open.org web site", i.e., it points to the same nonfree files. I've also checked the Gentoo app-office/libreoffice-7.0.4.2 package, and it doesn't install any Relax-NG schemas. It only installs DTDs for the older OpenOffice.org 1.x format. These are licensed under MPL-2.0. Maybe it's time to contact OASIS Open and ask them if they would consider relicensing the Relax-NG schemas. Does somebody know one of the persons from their committee, because that may be a good place to start: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=office