* Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off?
@ 2005-07-24 22:44 Lennart Borgman
2005-07-24 23:39 ` Jason Rumney
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From: Lennart Borgman @ 2005-07-24 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
I see something very strange here with the standard value of
tooltip-mode. With emacs -Q customize shows that tooltip-mode is off and
that this is STANDARD. With emacs -q --no-site-file it is on and this is
STANDARD.
Should not -Q === -q --no-site-file?
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* Re: Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off?
2005-07-24 22:44 Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off? Lennart Borgman
@ 2005-07-24 23:39 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-24 23:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-25 13:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
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From: Jason Rumney @ 2005-07-24 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Emacs Devel
Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:
> Should not -Q === -q --no-site-file?
No. -Q is -q --no-site-file with some UI features turned off. I
thought it was more than just tooltips, but I don't see anything else
right now (toolbar, menu bar, scrollbars and fringe are all still
there). I'm not sure why "emacs --help" says it is equivalent to -q
--no-site-file when it is not.
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* Re: Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off?
2005-07-24 23:39 ` Jason Rumney
@ 2005-07-24 23:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-25 0:22 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-25 13:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman @ 2005-07-24 23:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Emacs Devel
Jason Rumney wrote:
>Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:
>
>
>
>>Should not -Q === -q --no-site-file?
>>
>>
>
>No. -Q is -q --no-site-file with some UI features turned off. I
>thought it was more than just tooltips, but I don't see anything else
>right now (toolbar, menu bar, scrollbars and fringe are all still
>there). I'm not sure why "emacs --help" says it is equivalent to -q
>--no-site-file when it is not.
>
There are three variants:
1) emacs --help
2) Info
3) how it actually behaves
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* Re: Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off?
2005-07-24 23:46 ` Lennart Borgman
@ 2005-07-25 0:22 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-25 13:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
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From: Luc Teirlinck @ 2005-07-25 0:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel, jasonr
Lennart Borgman wrote:
There are three variants:
1) emacs --help
2) Info
3) how it actually behaves
I believe that the Emacs manual (which is probably what you mean by
"Info") describes the intended behavior, whereas `emacs --help'
slightly oversimplifies it, which might be deliberate since the
disabling of the startup screen can be considered a minor detail and
`emacs --help' needs to be reasonably concise.
I believe that the fact that Tooltip Mode is disabled after emacs -Q,
whereas it is enabled after emacs -q -D is due to an oversight when the
original emacs -Q got split into the new emacs -Q and emacs -D. I
believe that the intended behavior is exactly opposite and that the
patch below, which implements the opposite behavior should be installed.
(I can do this if desired.) Note that emacs-quick-startup is set by
-Q, whereas emacs-basic-display is set by -D.
===File ~/tooltip.el-diff===================================
*** tooltip.el 13 Jul 2005 19:24:28 -0500 1.63
--- tooltip.el 24 Jul 2005 18:30:52 -0500
***************
*** 159,165 ****
With ARG, turn tooltip mode on if and only if ARG is positive."
:global t
:init-value (not (or noninteractive
! emacs-quick-startup
(not (display-graphic-p))
(not (fboundp 'x-show-tip))))
:initialize 'custom-initialize-safe-default
--- 159,165 ----
With ARG, turn tooltip mode on if and only if ARG is positive."
:global t
:init-value (not (or noninteractive
! emacs-basic-display
(not (display-graphic-p))
(not (fboundp 'x-show-tip))))
:initialize 'custom-initialize-safe-default
============================================================
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* Re: Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off?
2005-07-24 23:39 ` Jason Rumney
2005-07-24 23:46 ` Lennart Borgman
@ 2005-07-25 13:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
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From: Richard M. Stallman @ 2005-07-25 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: lennart.borgman.073, emacs-devel
No. -Q is -q --no-site-file with some UI features turned off. I
thought it was more than just tooltips, but I don't see anything else
right now (toolbar, menu bar, scrollbars and fringe are all still
there). I'm not sure why "emacs --help" says it is equivalent to -q
--no-site-file when it is not.
Because there was a bug. That's the usual reason.
It is fixed now.
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* Re: Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off?
2005-07-25 0:22 ` Luc Teirlinck
@ 2005-07-25 13:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
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From: Richard M. Stallman @ 2005-07-25 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: lennart.borgman.073, jasonr, emacs-devel
I
believe that the intended behavior is exactly opposite and that the
patch below, which implements the opposite behavior should be installed.
Yes, that's the right fix. As it happens I made the same fix
after I saw the other message, so it is already installed.
But thanks anyway.
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