From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Options menu Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:45:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <010e01c52c0d$ac93ede0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <01c52c6d$Blat.v2.4$713e68a0@zahav.net.il> <006901c52c9b$bcf6c890$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111352746 8111 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 21:05:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lennart Borgman , eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 22:05:45 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD7cF-0004bh-O4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:05:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD7tD-0008Eo-BY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:23:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD7oG-0007ue-69 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:18:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD7o4-0007pQ-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:18:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD7nz-0007kz-I0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1DD7Id-00058A-9G; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:45:27 -0500 Original-Received: from wanchan.jasonrumney.net (i-195-137-77-250.freedom2surf.net [195.137.77.250]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2KKjQch019476; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:45:26 GMT Original-Received: from TONKOTSU-RAMEN (tonkotsu-ramen.jasonrumney.net [10.0.0.28]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F045DDE1D; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:45:25 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: (David Kastrup's message of "Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:26:02 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34841 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34841 David Kastrup writes: > Since I have stared now at the current menus for 21.4 and 22.x for > longer than probably ever previously, I would like to mention one > other thing that has struck me as standing out negatively, and this > _would_ be a change with regard to 21.4: I'd swap the order of the > "Save Options" and "Customize Emacs" menu entries to make "Save > Options" be the last entry in the menu: that's where people look for > it. I think the reason to put it above "Customize Emacs" is to avoid misleading users into thinking that it will save changes made inside customize. > I am also not happy about the "Customize Emacs" menu name: it implies > that selecting options in the Options menu would be different from > customizing Emacs. I'd prefer to have this menu called "All Options" This has the same potential for misleading users about the scope of "Save Options".