From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian Elmegaard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: 21 Mar 2005 08:39:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <87acozbp0v.fsf@informatik.uni-freiburg.de> <7ek6o2w7bl.fsf@ada2.unipv.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111390918 17025 80.91.229.2 (21 Mar 2005 07:41:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 21 08:41:57 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDHXs-00085a-IW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:41:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDHov-0004iX-Oz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:59:29 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!news.net.uni-c.dk!sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.166.154.230 Original-X-Trace: DXC=M5H@TJ37lGcoTl; T5C; Ac7_WibYj Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129508 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25060 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25060 Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > Brian Elmegaard writes: > > > Me too. But, the students I force to use emacs for simulation > > (http://www.et.dtu.dk/software/dna) don't like it. > > if this software produces graphs or other images, you can display > them in an emacs buffer. that is all the UI you will need to > trick students into enjoying the fast edit cycle. You are right. BTW, could I build a UI with drag'n'drop possibilities inside emacs? > if you drop the request for a > separate program for UI, perhaps emacs lisp programmers would be > more inclined to contribute to the project (hint hint). But I have already. > the idea is to live in emacs when possible (i.e., all the time). I do (Except for w3, which never get to work. ) -- Brian (remove the sport for mail) http://www.et.dtu.dk/staff/be/be.html