From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tooltip-use-echo-area disappeared Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:35:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <429EBEBF.4080005@gnu.org> <17054.53387.737275.879063@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <1117715090.429efa926ded0@webmail.freedom2surf.net> <17055.728.887711.842945@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <42AD7E51.4000506@gnu.org> <17069.62614.145616.263552@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17070.23884.564148.959259@farnswood.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118781531 23951 80.91.229.2 (14 Jun 2005 20:38:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jasonr@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 14 22:38:50 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiIAw-0005tS-Nz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:38:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiIG1-0005Td-9u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:43:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiIEn-0004r2-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiIEe-0004mV-Og for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiIEd-0004l4-Qb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:42:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DiI9m-0005eM-LM; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:37:10 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-200-188.inter.net.il [83.130.200.188]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id BNJ56099 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:35:16 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: Nick Roberts In-reply-to: <17070.23884.564148.959259@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:30:04 +1200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38832 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38832 > From: Nick Roberts > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:30:04 +1200 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney > > Resurrecting tooltip-use-echo-area is unrelated to making the tty version > support tooltips. IMO, it is related. > It was just a flag that re-directed the output of tooltip-show-help > to the echo area i.e. in the case of normal tooltips back to where > it was displayed before tooltips were turned on. If you mean to say that turning tooltips off would still display the tooltip text in the echo area, then I agree with Jason: that's a bug that should be fixed. It should be possible to have 1 of 3 situations wrt tooltips: (1) no tooltips and no messages in echo area (2) tooltip text is displayed in the echo area (3) tooltips are displayed as small floating windows > Normal tooltips and GUD tooltips have quite different internals and > putting their associated code in separate files was much more modular. > Previously if tooltip-use-echo-area was set to t so that normal tooltips > displayed there, then GUD tooltips would display there. Internals aside, from the user's point of view, if I want tooltip text to be displayed in the echo area, I want ALL tooltips to behave like that. Why in the world would I like these two variants of tips to behave differently?