From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs unconditionally loads tramp.el Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:36:19 +0300 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1146418607 935 80.91.229.2 (30 Apr 2006 17:36:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 30 19:36:45 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FaFqb-0003pZ-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:36:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FaFqa-0000d6-Jg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:36:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FaFqP-0000d0-Nn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:36:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FaFqO-0000bZ-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:36:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FaFqO-0000bT-0p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:36:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.20] (helo=nitzan.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FaFu0-00029h-P7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-45-104.inter.net.il [80.230.45.104]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id DFZ88431 (AUTH halo1); Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:36:19 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53681 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:51:45 -0700 > > My day job is with a large company, where almost all code developers > use Windows as their desktop OS and either Windows or GNU/Linux as the > target OS. So I'm speaking from experience, not from theory. > > Good. So we have similar experience here. In that case, why do you think > that few "Windows users even consider a prospect of accessing remote files"? Because I never heard anyone of them ask. (As you can imagine, if they have _any_ question about Emacs, the come to me.) > (And generally PuTTY is a wonderful package, IMHO. I am using it for > several years, and I have yet to see a single serious bug or > misfeature. Since I have it installed, I never looked back on the > Cygwin ports of ssh.) > > Can you (or someone else) point to a simple set of instructions for using > plink and PuTTY? PuTTY comes with an online manual which is very readable and includes detailed explanation of every option. But in general, the defaults work well. After unzipping the executables, all you need to do to configure PuTTY is to fill the few items in the session configuration dialog that pops when you click on PuTTY's icon, and then save the session definitions-- they will be used automatically for that host thereafter. The only things that I change, apart of the host address and the session name, is the location of the private key file, and sometimes the auto-login username. (I also play with colors, but that's just because I'm a color customization junkie.) That's it! Plink is a command-line utility that is an ssh work-alike, it accepts a somewhat different, but similar, set of command-line options. > I still want to use Cygwin's bash shell on Windows for other Emacs > stuff, though. I don't think you will have any problems with PuTTY wrt Cygwin (for example, PuTTY opens its own window, unrelated to the shell's window), but only experience will show, since I myself don't use Cygwin at all.