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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: opening large files (few hundred meg)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:04:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <umyqlvsxb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801312255.m0VMt701019096@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu> (message from Ilya Zakharevich on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:55:07 -0800 (PST))

> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:55:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org>
> 
> > The problem is not with the buffer size per se, it's with the fact
> > that Emacs needs to be able to address each byte of the file's text
> > with an Emacs integer data type, which is 29 bit wide on 32-bit
> > machines.
> 
> Are you sure?

See src/buffer.h, where it defines `struct buffer_text'.  It has these
members:

    EMACS_INT gpt;              /* Char pos of gap in buffer.  */
    EMACS_INT z;                /* Char pos of end of buffer.  */
    EMACS_INT gpt_byte;         /* Byte pos of gap in buffer.  */
    EMACS_INT z_byte;           /* Byte pos of end of buffer.  */
    EMACS_INT gap_size;         /* Size of buffer's gap.  */

and then `struct buffer' has this:

    /* Char position of point in buffer.  */
    EMACS_INT pt;
    /* Byte position of point in buffer.  */
    EMACS_INT pt_byte;
    /* Char position of beginning of accessible range.  */
    EMACS_INT begv;
    /* Byte position of beginning of accessible range.  */
    EMACS_INT begv_byte;
    /* Char position of end of accessible range.  */
    EMACS_INT zv;
    /* Byte position of end of accessible range.  */
    EMACS_INT zv_byte;

(On 32-bit machines, EMACS_INT is the 29-bit wide integer I was
talking about) So yes, I'm quite sure.

> I think it should be enough to address each char in the
> buffer, plus 2 "guard zones" immediately before and after the buffer,
> plus two "guard zones" at start and end of the file.
> 
> E.g., if the guard zone size is 1MB, then the "actual chunk of file"
> goes from offset 2M to offset 126M in the buffer; accessing anything
> from offset 1M to 2M "scrolls back" the chunk; accessing anything from
> offset 0 to 1M loads the chunk at start of file, etc.
> 
> Why won't this work?

Maybe it would, but I wasn't trying to describe some inherent
limitation of 32-bit machines, I was describing the limitation of the
_current_ Emacs implementation.  The OP wanted to know how can Emacs
be used to edit large files, not how Emacs can be modified.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-01 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-28 17:35 opening large files (few hundred meg) Xah Lee
2008-01-28 18:05 ` Sven Joachim
2008-01-28 19:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-28 20:36     ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]     ` <mailman.6652.1201552566.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-01-28 21:50       ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-29  7:07         ` Andreas Röhler
2008-01-29  7:20         ` Thierry Volpiatto
     [not found]         ` <mailman.6666.1201591238.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-01-29  9:08           ` Tim X
2008-01-29 16:34             ` Xah Lee
2008-01-29 19:06               ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-29 20:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.6705.1201639469.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-01-30 20:01                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 22:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-29 22:10               ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-30 17:08                 ` Joel J. Adamson
2008-01-31  5:57               ` Tim X
2008-01-31 15:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-08 11:25               ` Giacomo Boffi
2008-02-06  1:47             ` Samuel Karl Peterson
2008-01-29 14:52           ` Joel J. Adamson
2008-01-30 14:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-06 16:42         ` Mathias Dahl
2008-02-06 16:55           ` Mathias Dahl
2008-01-29 10:43       ` Johan Bockgård
2008-01-29 15:35         ` Andreas Röhler
2008-02-06  1:25         ` Samuel Karl Peterson
2008-02-17 16:01           ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-01-29 16:33       ` Ted Zlatanov
     [not found]   ` <mailman.6646.1201548710.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-01-30 15:12     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 16:55       ` Sven Joachim
2008-01-30 21:53         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-31 22:55     ` Ilya Zakharevich
     [not found]     ` <200801312255.m0VMt701019096@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu>
2008-02-01 11:04       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
     [not found]       ` <mailman.6836.1201863892.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-02-01 22:26         ` Ilya Zakharevich

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