From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCller?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#73886: 29.4; Confusing info about void function cells in Emacs Lisp manual Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:07:37 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87frorykq5.fsf@igel.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40378"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 73886@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 19 23:09:01 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t2Gh2-000AJ6-Rw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:09:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t2Ggh-0003F1-Ny; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:08:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t2Ggf-0003Ec-Tc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:08:37 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t2Ggf-0007U1-LD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:08:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=debbugs.gnu.org; s=debbugs-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:To:Subject; bh=/wpXFIhZftrlrXmpt3iChcdIUvn9eRDpWyZ7AvgNWY8=; b=JDAuVw/cGk2AOe3sXlTDDKhWZSDzxJh4GpMhGrYTn1TIVWstlGruocUqO1sqDn0h5I6oum6Mavh2FYkEy5Qalzx0U3/XuVZQGROflGbKiszZ8A3wkWuLuBcoyf5aQDeGj8i0DazApq6jNYIURpPtSC2ZAki3M3rCRgTQlgAjVFiWMLOutxxi5/3C0RFPeMX95jo7y3lUWsJ/zLukfnPdgyr9p9+1tWGfJ+h48cWMsYxwpavpBIpWtbNLLkal/XDLrmELZ1+L1JqtpAH+r/iSZgWGLLdCyAZF1/0wdKprRUGHEtQVwlTBRkmLSPaovLuDypnnIw/5HuDLbeD88li3XQ==; Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2Gh3-0004FE-PS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:09:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ulrich =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCller?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73886 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 73886-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73886.172937212416289 (code B ref 73886); Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 73886) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2024 21:08:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44932 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2Ggm-0004Ef-AT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:08:44 -0400 Original-Received: from woodpecker.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:50420 helo=smtp.gentoo.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2Ggk-0004EP-Lv for 73886@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:08:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87frorykq5.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:08:02 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:293911 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2024, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Okt 19 2024, Ulrich M=C3=BCller wrote: >> Is the manual wrong, or am I missing something? > That changed in commit eadf1faa3cb, but the manual wasn't updated. Then the respective docstrings are also outdated, i.e. the term "void" shouldn't occur in any of these: (fboundp SYMBOL) Return t if SYMBOL=E2=80=99s function definition is not void. (fmakunbound SYMBOL) Make SYMBOL=E2=80=99s function definition be void. Return SYMBOL. (symbol-function SYMBOL) Return SYMBOL=E2=80=99s function definition, or nil if that is void.