From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.bidi Subject: Re: merge emacs-bidi into the main tree Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:05:26 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87lluax3ch.fsf@emacswiki.org> <7458-Sun03Aug2003224354+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> <87smoi9p64.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87he4x5v7x.fsf_-_@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1060334465 721 80.91.224.253 (8 Aug 2003 09:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, alex@emacswiki.org, developer@arabeyes.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 08 11:21:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19l3RB-00043w-00 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:21:29 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19l3X0-0004z9-00 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:27:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19l3IW-0007fK-MM for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 05:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19l3ID-0007ep-DB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 05:12:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19l3Hh-0007V3-6a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 05:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 19l3Hg-0007Us-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 05:11:40 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 6860 invoked by uid 65534); 8 Aug 2003 09:11:13 -0000 Original-Received: from dialin-145-254-192-043.arcor-ip.net (EHLO HERMES) (145.254.192.43) by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 08 Aug 2003 11:11:13 +0200 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "07 Aug 2003 16:29:32 +0200") X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6; Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15840 gmane.emacs.bidi:115 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15840 Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Richard Stallman >> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:05:07 -0400 >> >> What do Hebrew and Arab users think of it? >> Eli Z, what is your opinion? > > I feel uneasy about using something about which Gerd was most unhappy > at the time this was discussed. > > I'd prefer to call for volunteers to continue the work I started, > namely, change the display engine to support bidirectional editing > without processing batches of buffer's text. (I can elaborate if > there's enough interest.) I have some unpolished stand-alone code > that does bidi reordering sequentially, which should fit very well > into the Emacs display engine, but someone needs to take that code and > integrate it into Emacs, since I probably won't have time any time > soon enough for this to be practical. > > If anyone steps forward willing to begin hacking the display code, I > promise to help in any way I can. Well, I am probably not yet skilled enough to be of any real help. And I still have making fontsets customizable as the `car' of my TODO-list, while the university does not leave much time for me. But since I have been fascinated by m18n issues, since I started to use Emacs. And since I'd like to become proficient in display hacking some time in the future, I would appreciate it, if you could add me to the emacs-bidi mailing list. Maybe I could do some minor tasks, at least. Oliver -- Oliver Scholz 21 Thermidor an 211 de la Révolution Taunusstr. 25 Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité! 60329 Frankfurt a. M. http://www.jungdemokratenhessen.de Tel. (069) 97 40 99 42 http://www.jdjl.org