From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: kbd vs read-key-sequence Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:46:05 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4610139D.3060909@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1175517988 23536 80.91.229.12 (2 Apr 2007 12:46:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jasonr@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 02 14:46:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HYLvO-0000li-P7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:46:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYLyQ-0005tv-GP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:49:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYLyM-0005tc-IL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:49:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYLyK-0005sl-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:49:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYLyK-0005sg-Ov for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:49:20 -0400 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HYLvG-0008V7-Ma; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:46:10 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([81.5.34.87]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id GKX95149 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 2 Apr 2007 15:46:03 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:31:38 +0900) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:68936 Archived-At: > From: Kenichi Handa > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:31:38 +0900 > > > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms646267.aspx > > > (under "Nonsystem Character Messages"), and > > > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms633586.aspx > > > for the gory details. > > Ummm, by reading that page briefly, it seems that getting > Unicode codepoints is much easier. Maybe it is (experience tells me that nothing is ever easy on Windows wrt international support), but some Windows versions (which we still support) don't have Unicode support built-in. We don't yet want to drop support for those systems, surely not because of an obscure problem of binding META-non-ASCII characters! > > But surely, such a drastic change in the w32 keyboard input processing > > is not something to consider before the release! Especially when the > > problems we are trying to fix are so minor, almost invisible. > > I basicly agree. But, such a change is better than managing > to modify encoded-kbd-mode to do what it shouldn't do. Well, I think we shouldn't be doing anything at all, neither in encoded-kbd-mode nor in w32 keyboard input. I already documented in PROBLEMS that this is a known problem with Emacs 22.1 on Windows.