From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: info faces for strings and quotations Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:44:28 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200410060225.i962P8s19416@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097052322 16343 80.91.229.6 (6 Oct 2004 08:45:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 06 10:45:14 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CF7QA-0005B7-00 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:45:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CF7Wp-0001SL-QI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CF7WY-0001Ri-6N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CF7WX-0001R8-IN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CF7WX-0001Qz-9T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CF7Pk-0003Sy-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 17099 invoked by uid 65534); 6 Oct 2004 08:44:31 -0000 Original-Received: from dsl-084-057-047-051.arcor-ip.net (EHLO USER-2MOEN8BWBA.gmx.de) (84.57.47.51) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 06 Oct 2004 10:44:31 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1497658 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200410060225.i962P8s19416@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:25:08 -0500 (CDT)") X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6; Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27987 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27987 Luc Teirlinck writes: [...] > Info files are essentially plain text with some minimal markup that is > intended for navigation, not highlighting. So I believe that there is > no way that one can do what you are trying to do completely reliably > any more than that it is possible to implement > Info-hide-note-references completely reliably. To do that, one would > need to base the Emacs Info reader on the XML output format instead of > on the Info output format. Indeed. You need more information in the markup to do this in a reliable way. (A side effect of this would be that you can also use font-lock for code examples.) > (Maybe somebody might actually do that some day.) There was another longish thread on this issue here about a year ago, in which I participated extensively. Well, this is about rendering XML ... I regard it as part of the word processing framework. The half-finished XML parser with which I am working (an implementation of SSAX in Elisp) is written with rendering info XML in mind in that it allows for partial on-demand parsing (which is necessary for files as large as the Emacs manual). Oliver -- Oliver Scholz 15 Vendémiaire an 213 de la Révolution Ostendstr. 61 Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité! 60314 Frankfurt a. M.