From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Help: build emacs in cygwin Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:52:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ejo2nrf6.fsf@offby1.atm01.sea.blarg.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1173552773 13482 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2007 18:52:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 10 19:52:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HQ6gU-0001vp-Fo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:52:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQ6gs-0004jp-Vp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:53:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HQ6gh-0004eG-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HQ6gf-0004Yj-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQ6gf-0004YU-G5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:53:01 -0500 Original-Received: from heller.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.23]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HQ6gB-0006Wb-Ka; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:52:31 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-99-47.inter.net.il [80.230.99.47]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id CCB26513 (AUTH halo1); Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:52:11 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:26:19 -0500) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:67687 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: william.xue@gmail.com, offby1@blarg.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:26:19 -0500 > > Anyway, Cygwin users are used to run the usual "./configure; make" > commands one uses on GNU/Linux to build packages. > > That may be true for Cygwin users with experience. > But not for new ones. By this very logic, we also need to address this problem in the msdos/ and mac/ directories, because perhaps inexperienced Cygwin users will look there. In general, inexperienced users simply download a precompiled binary distribution. Those who build their own have enough experience to know where to look. The age of Unix users who built all their packages from sources is long gone; nowadays, I sometimes need to look for hours for a plain .tar.gz source archive, wading through myriads of binary RPMs and DSCs as I go, even for GNU/Linux. > I added something to say this even more clearly than we did before. > > Your change made it a little clearer, but didn't say anything about > Cygwin. ??? Here's my change (including a typo, later fixed by Juanma): + If you want to build a Cygwin port of Emacs, use the instructions in + the INSTALL file in the main Emacs directory (the poarent of this + directory). These instructions are for building a native Windows + binary of Emacs. How's this ``not saying anything about Cygwin''? > When something is really important to communicate, it's a mistake to > ask whether it "should be clear the way it is". The question to ask is, > "Can we do anything to make sure people get the message?" I hardly need this lecture; see my change above.