From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:18:44 +0300 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <48861A51.1090401@gmail.com> <4887C77C.2090109@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216995599 23199 80.91.229.12 (25 Jul 2008 14:19:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 16:20:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KMO9v-0002i3-BD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:20:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43326 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMO91-0004Xe-JB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:19:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMO8x-0004XL-7w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:19:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMO8w-0004X7-Iv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:19:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49755 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMO8w-0004X4-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:19:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il ([84.95.2.13]:53608) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KMO8q-00007l-PV; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:19:33 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.112.15]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K4K00B73FR82700@i_mtaout5.012.net.il>; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:18:45 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101460 Archived-At: > From: Richard M Stallman > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:04:40 -0400 > Cc: lord@emf.net, drobinow@gmail.com, hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > acm@muc.de, miles@gnu.org > > Developers programs might not have an immediate effect, but I believe > the long time aid might be much larger. > > I see no reason to think such an effect exists. Meanwhile, people > have told me that the fact that Emacs runs on Windows undercut their > ability to insist on running GNU/Linux at work. > > Without some sort of demonstration I decline to believe that this > helps us. Why do you believe the former claims more than you believe the latter? Let those who claim the former "demonstrate" it first.