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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, david@harpegolden.net
Subject: Re: Emacs 23.0 is much slower starting than Emacs 22.3
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:19:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uk5c0e39f.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081022211202.GA1037@muc.de>

> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:12:02 +0000
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > >>>Starting Emacs 22.3 takes 23 seconds.
> > >>>Starting Emacs 23.0 takes 38 seconds.

Is this with cold or warm cache?  Is there a difference?

> > FWIW, I'd find your emacs22 time pretty unacceptable, never mind the
> > emacs23 one, even on a 1.2GHz-class machine. Are a lot of people
> > putting up with that sort of start time? Ouch.
> 
> Hey, don't be so hard on my poor little PC!  It's getting on a bit[*].
> There's 83 files being loaded by desktop, with a total of 7801019 bytes.

How many seconds does it take to run "sed -n -e s/xyzzy/xyzzy/p" on
all those files, on that machine?  (That should give us a baseline of
the disk and filesystem performance.)

> emacs-22 -Q starts in ~0.4 seconds.
> emacs-23 -Q starts in ~0.7 seconds.

Can you see if some files your desktop visits take much longer than
others?

How about loading elp.el early on and profiling the startup phase on
both versions?

On GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, and MS-Windows, you can also profile Emacs on
the C level, search for PROFILING in emacs.c.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-22 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-22  9:11 Emacs 23.0 is much slower starting than Emacs 22.3 Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-22 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-22 13:55   ` John covici
2008-10-22 15:14   ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-22 16:46     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-22 21:12       ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-22 21:19         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-10-23  9:21           ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-23 21:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-23  6:53         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-23  9:09           ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-23 16:57             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-23 21:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-23 22:33                 ` Lennart Borgman
2008-10-24  9:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-23 22:47                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-23 23:12                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-10-23 23:54                     ` Lennart Borgman
2008-10-24  9:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-24 13:58                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24 15:44                         ` Lennart Borgman
2008-10-24 16:24                           ` Chong Yidong
2008-10-24 16:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-24 16:45                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24 16:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-25  2:01                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25  3:38                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24  0:13                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24  0:59                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-10-24  1:58                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24  1:44                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24  9:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-24 15:00                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24 11:21                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-24 14:32                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24 19:28                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-24 19:35                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24  4:13                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-24 15:19                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24 18:42                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-24 19:36                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24 23:44                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-25 15:19                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-25 17:02                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-24  9:52                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-24  9:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-24  9:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-23  1:29       ` Miles Bader
2008-10-23  9:06         ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-22 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 21:40   ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-10-22 22:09     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 21:02 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-24 11:59   ` Emacs 23.0 is much slower than Emacs 22.3. Maybe it's the garbage collector Alan Mackenzie

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