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* Re: terminal escapes in Info files?
@ 2003-10-28  1:26 Karl Berry
  2003-10-28 10:51 ` Alper Ersoy
  2003-10-29 19:02 ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 135+ messages in thread
From: Karl Berry @ 2003-10-28  1:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel, rms, dirt

    > if we want to add font markup to info fmt, let's not use something as
    > ugly as terminal escape squences.  please design something clean!

Since Info is inherently limited to what can be displayed on a terminal,
it seems like ANSI escape sequences are as reasonable specification of
the capabilities as anything else?  Easy to implement, too.  Admittedly
the ESC [ blah blah sequences are ugly, though.

    How about using what Enriched-Text mode uses in Emacs?  See
    etc/enriched.doc in the Emacs distro.

That is indeed a lot cleaner (also quite a bit more verbose :).  Thanks
for mentioning it, I wasn't aware of it.

It seems using this would imply a new non-backward-compatible output
format, though, since every literal < needs to be escaped in enriched
format, and existing info readers don't know how to do that.

Using the ugly terminal escape sequences, on the other hand, is
backward-compatible because I'm sure that no real document has literal
terminal escape sequences (Texinfo hasn't had @ctrl for years ...).

Hmm.  As always, it seems there is no easy answer.

Thanks,
k

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2003-10-28  1:26 terminal escapes in Info files? Karl Berry
2003-10-28 10:51 ` Alper Ersoy
2003-10-28 13:48   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-30 10:42     ` Alper Ersoy
2003-11-10 13:01       ` HTML as info format (was: terminal escapes in Info files?) Oliver Scholz
2003-11-17 13:29         ` HTML as info format Juri Linkov
2003-11-18  7:01           ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-18 14:54             ` Changes to Texinfo DTD [Was: Re: HTML as info format] Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-18 15:59               ` Changes to Texinfo DTD Oliver Scholz
2003-11-18 21:03                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-18 21:18                   ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-19 12:38                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-19 13:18                       ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-20 10:37                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-11-20 16:55                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-20 18:19                       ` Oliver Scholz
2003-11-20 20:32                         ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-20 22:05                           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-11-20 22:51                             ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-21  2:13                             ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-21  8:49                               ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-21  2:10                           ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-21  7:57                             ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-24  7:57                               ` Juri Linkov
2003-11-24  9:32                                 ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-22 21:19                           ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-22 21:41                             ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-22 21:42                               ` Miles Bader
2003-11-22 21:56                                 ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-24  7:55                                   ` Juri Linkov
2003-11-24  9:25                                     ` Why XSLT in Emacs Lisp? (was Re: Changes to Texinfo DTD) Nic Ferrier
2003-11-24 13:04                                       ` Why XSLT in Emacs Lisp? Alex Schroeder
2003-11-23 17:14                                 ` Changes to Texinfo DTD Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-24  7:54                                 ` Juri Linkov
2003-11-24 16:19                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-11-24 22:32                                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-24 22:31                                       ` Miles Bader
2003-11-25  5:22                                     ` Juri Linkov
2003-11-25 16:48                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-11-25 21:59                                         ` Juri Linkov
2003-11-25 23:32                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-11-25 19:54                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-11-25 21:48                                         ` Juri Linkov
2003-11-26  1:08                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-12-02  6:42                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-03  1:47                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-12-03 16:18                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-04  2:53                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-12-04  7:58                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-04  2:54                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-12-04  8:04                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-04  9:39                                               ` Oliver Scholz
2003-12-04 11:48                                                 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-12-04 15:35                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-04  8:19                                             ` Oliver Scholz
2003-12-04 13:49                                             ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-12-05  0:11                                             ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-05  9:49                                               ` Kim F. Storm
2003-12-06 16:11                                                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2003-12-06 17:11                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-09 16:47                                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2003-12-10  7:25                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-04  3:35                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-12-04  8:12                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-11-22 23:59                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-23  0:05                                 ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-23 14:16                                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-11-23 15:11                                     ` Nic Ferrier
2003-11-24 16:22                               ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-20 18:24                       ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-11-24 16:23                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-02  7:08           ` HTML as info format Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-01 10:38             ` Info enhancements Juri Linkov
2003-12-02  3:34               ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-12-02 10:54                 ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-02  4:43               ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-12-02 10:18               ` Info enhancements (was: Re: HTML as info format) Juri Linkov
2003-12-02 17:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-02 19:26                   ` Karl Berry
2003-12-03  5:38                     ` Info enhancements Juri Linkov
2003-12-03 13:27                       ` Karl Berry
2003-12-03 15:46                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-12-20  5:34                         ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-20 14:57                           ` Karl Berry
2003-12-03 17:16                     ` Info enhancements (was: Re: HTML as info format) Richard Stallman
2003-12-02 21:22               ` Info enhancements Reiner Steib
2003-12-03  3:54                 ` `s' (regex) search [was Re: Info enhancements] Harry Putnam
2003-12-03  5:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-03  9:42                     ` Harry Putnam
2003-12-03 11:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-03 11:56                         ` Harry Putnam
2003-12-03 16:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-03 19:13                             ` Harry Putnam
2003-12-04  8:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-03  5:04                 ` Info enhancements Juri Linkov
2004-09-01 16:42                   ` Reiner Steib
2004-09-01 20:55                     ` Juri Linkov
2004-09-02 19:02                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-03  0:33               ` Kim F. Storm
2003-12-03  6:43                 ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-12  2:08               ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-12 14:24                 ` Karl Berry
2003-12-12 17:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-12 19:23                     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-12-13 10:12                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-13 23:15                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-12 21:38                   ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-13 15:17                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-16  2:14                       ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-17  3:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-18  3:03                           ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-18 16:59                             ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-19 14:03                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-12-20  5:27                               ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-13 15:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-15  2:35                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-15  6:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-15 20:06                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-16  3:00                     ` Juri Linkov
2003-12-16 12:12                       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-12-17  3:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-17  3:28                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-01 21:07               ` non-blocking socket io: data limit on read? Nic Ferrier
2003-10-28 16:19   ` terminal escapes in Info files? Stefan Monnier
2003-10-29 19:02     ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-29 19:47       ` David Kastrup
2003-10-29 21:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-29 22:39           ` David Kastrup
2003-10-30  6:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-30 18:00         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-29 19:01   ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-29 19:45     ` Alper Ersoy
2003-10-29 19:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-30 18:00       ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-29 19:02 ` Richard Stallman

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