From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian Elmegaard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: 20 Mar 2005 13:39:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111323309 29350 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 12:55:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 13:55:09 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCzve-0002aJ-07 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:53:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD0CS-000760-DB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:10:36 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!news.net.uni-c.dk!sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.166.154.230 Original-X-Trace: DXC=`O6lJnVh=o5kVm3Q1RnDK5YSB=nbEKnk; 0iD:o5Hn]; :B5AQgEXWLc=eWR8?[FEXN6G`OJE8Gd139IUWY:IjIWi1 Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129472 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25027 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25027 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: > With the exception of the last one, these are all advanced stuff, not > something a newbie would stumble on, IMHO. MS Word and winedt are not advanced, but do have that. > This is the function of the window manager. Where Emacs runs under a > window manager, Alt-F4 does close it. C-h k gives me: is undefined > > C-TAB for frame/window/buffer (depending on changes according to [2]) > > switching. > > Where did you see this key binding? Almost anywhere but in MS word and emacs, for instance: winedt, excel, gimp, mozilla. -- Brian (remove the sport for mail) http://www.et.dtu.dk/staff/be/be.html