From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian Elmegaard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: 21 Mar 2005 09:11:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111392781 21260 80.91.229.2 (21 Mar 2005 08:13:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 21 09:13:01 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDI1m-0003Em-QK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:12:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDIIq-0003nF-AC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:30:24 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!news.net.uni-c.dk!sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.166.154.230 Original-X-Trace: DXC=mni_\PRd?:NlZiKmBn9NRLYSB=nbEKnkK\WMElLmK\[HB5AQgEXWLcMeWR8?[FEXNFG`OJE8Gd13I>; Ac7_WibYJ Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129509 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25061 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25061 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: > If MS Word isn't advanced, then what is? It is the application any child uses first (after games and browsers that is). You are right, however, it is advanced and makes many people frustrated. But, it has a lot of clickable icons, that can makes it do stuff. Perhaps that is what makes it attractive, I don't know? Perhaps it's only marketing. > On what OS? Under which window manager? Windows XP > 4 examples vs 2 is not ``almost anywhere''. In general those that have tabs for the windows: wxpython, Pythonwin, Refrigeration Utilities, Matlab, Texniccenter, winshell In general not those which allow only one file (buffer) in one window (frame): maple, octave, maxima, gsview, open office. -- Brian (remove the sport for mail) http://www.et.dtu.dk/staff/be/be.html